Wearing a hoodie that said "DEAF" on the back in capitals

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  Originally Posted by **edscoble** [![](http://www.londonfgss.com/images/londonfgss/buttons_lite/viewpost.gif)](http://www.londonfgss.com/thread9242-2.html#post353680) 

forget to respond to this one - I´m always getting verbal abuse every now and then.

Oxymoron!

to be pedantic its strictly antithesis

I thought Platini was very good on Strictly Antithesis this week. Great verbal dexterity.

to be pedantic its strictly antithesis

lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

to be pedantic its strictly antithesis

Don't try to take the piss out of Ed please..:

to be pedantic its strictly antithesis

Mike, I hate you! You shouldn't be able to structure sentences like that at your age.

Go back to school and learn how to smoke, or stab people, or something...

Mike, I hate you! You shouldn't be able to structure sentences like that at your age.

Go back to school and learn how to smoke, or stab people, or something...

... or to structure sentences properly:
"Strictly speaking, it's antithesis, but it would be pedantic of me to point that out."

I didn't say he constructed that sentence correctly, just that he shouldn't be able to structure it like that.

:p

He is six, though...

I didn't say he constructed that sentence correctly, just that he shouldn't be able to structure it like that.

:p

He is six, though...

The Daily Mail is right - standards are slipping. Ed Balls should resign forthwith...

Can't think of a good title.

Anyway, seeing that I'm deaf and tend not to recognised sound (incoming car, police/ambulance/fire engine sirens, people going OI!.) and even a simple wind blowing at my hearing aids will sound like a radio with no reception, so trying to listen is impossible, also poor balance which mean if someone hit me I'd come down a cropper (you need to able to hear properly in order to have good balance).

Riding around London is alright, I tend to spend a lots of time looking over my shoulder and observing the road ahead more often as if I was cycling with a NoBrake, no worried there really, but in the evening run back to South Wimbledon from Bloomsbury at 2am can get quite scary with children speeding in their car/scooter, police/ambulance/fire engine literally pop up from behind, driver driving too close to me, etc.

Would having a bright red hoodies with 'DEAF' in white helvetica (none other than) on the back would make a bit of a difference or not?

If the prob is stuff creeping up behind then you could get rear view mirror - even a real small convex one would do the trick... Or helmet mounted but then off the bike you might be mistaken for a recumbant rider...

That's in very poor taste Clive. +ve rep.
Oh, not allowed to.

Done it for you

maybe people would wonder why he had an induction loop fitted to his bag, but I digress.

the symbol along with the words Deaf Cyclist would be about right, IMO.
on reflective patches that could be sewn onto bags or tops,or even the dreaded yellow bibs.

Ed, have you dropped this idea onto the BDF or RNID ?

I doubt they'd do anything about it, after all, how do you know if there's a deaf person driving a vehicle? (and there are quite a lots of them driving, without even the aid of hearing aids).

either way I'll drop them a line about the idea for cyclists since they're in more danger than deaf drivers.

I don't know how many deaf people cycle...

you're the only one I know of (and my ex GF, except she was only partially deaf and only partially a cyclist)

would it also be a good thing if this became standardized, and driver got used to seeing the sign? that would also mean they would potentially be looking at all cyclists by then..

or is it just a "baby on board" sticker, are you just asking for the same amount of consideration from drivers that is mandatory to all cyclists, yet ignored?

Anyhow, I think it's essentially a good idea, cos you can't hear a horn or an engine, and the highway code states that a horn is used to warn other road users of your presence.

I would rep you

what about something like this Ed?

[Helvy as requested]

I don't know how many deaf people cycle...

you're the only one I know of (and my ex GF, except she was only partially deaf and only partially a cyclist)

would it also be a good thing if this became standardized, and driver got used to seeing the sign? that would also mean they would potentially be looking at all cyclists by then..

or is it just a "baby on board" sticker, are you just asking for the same amount of consideration from drivers that is mandatory to all cyclists, yet ignored?

Anyhow, I think it's essentially a good idea, cos you can't hear a horn or an engine, and the highway code states that a horn is used to warn other road users of your presence.

Naturally you´re right, especially on the standardisation of the symbol and drivers end up being more aware of this, however as you´ve said you don´t know many deaf people, in England there is only 108,000 severally/profoundly deaf people (including myself) between the age of 16 to 60, but there are 2,366,000 mildly deaf people (as in almost able to hear and listen without hearing aids).

I can´t find the number of deaf people living in London, but seeing that London is the captial of the UK, I says there is about 5,000 deaf people* base on my rough calculation, and thus, there should be roughly 150-200 deaf cyclists*, maybe less because we get free travels in London (freedom pass), I have one, but I want to cycle.

but here´s the thing, deaf people get freedom pass, thus limiting the number of deaf cyclists in London, for all I could know, I might be the only one cause I met a lots of deaf people and I´m still the only one cycling, well, beside him;

*(deaf cyclist wearing a sandwich board reading ´beware, I am deaf´, 1930s)

*

what about something like this Ed?

[Helvy as requested]

Wayne, that´s brilliant, I´m afraid the symbol might be too small and unnoticable when you´re sprinting down the Pentonville Road for instance, but the whole thing is pretty much what I want printed on the Archie´s Grobag once I finally get it next year.

*base on the severally/profoundly deaf population of the UK
**base on a simple calculation of 8,000,000 Londoners and 480,000 of them is a cyclist.

you're the only one I know of (and my ex GF, except she was only partially deaf and only partially a cyclist)

That's what see told you.

That's what see told you.

The perfect ironic typo.

taken by wiganwill;

I know it´s harder to read, but meh.

Saw you being photographed with your finished bag today, at some traffic lights on Theobalds Rd or somewhere round there. I was at the front of the queue in a silver van.

The bag looked good, but I figured it was you and had background knowledge that you're deaf.

I think otherwise I would have thought it was a brand. Maybe 'DEAF RIDER' would be clearer.

Sorry for being over-familiar, we've not spoken before. You went down a one way street before I could follow you home.

DEA?!
Fuck!
throws baggies over nearest fence
You'd get my attention!

;-)

that looks good. have you noticed an improvement?

Conclusion; All this is complete rubbish, a good cycle training make a bigger difference than a bag with 'DEAF written on it, the best it does at most is that, like helmet, give you confident, forget about warning drivers of your disabilities, it make little/no difference to your journey.

All that needed is simply look more often, sometime a lots more in busy intersection such as the Elephant and Castle, but that's all there to it.

Anyhow, found this while looking at this photos thingy.

I like that!

Oh yes, before I used to have this as my main, but now ditched it in favour of saddlebag/trailer;