Paypal Questions - Help, Disputes, Transfer Money

I've had problems selling things and paypal but the funds on hold until the buyer says they've recieved the package. It's a real pain in the arse, but I've never had it be unsolved. They get the goods and leave feedback then I get the money. Is that what's happened?

No, nothing has happened.

I am asking what paypal's protection is if you send someone £300 and they don't ship me a phone.
Paypal says they only cover you if the person has the amount in their account which sounds pointless to me because if you were going to rip someone off you'd take the money out asap.

Yep, it's not like you have to have only one current account.
Most people can't be bothered to drive on the other side of Britain to find out what's wrong. Even then, what are you going to do?
There was a case of a rip off sale of a car stereo on Ebay and the buyer went to knock the scammer's door. Nothing happened, so he smashed the window in the car parked outside. He was done for damaging private property, but the seller could be reached only through a small claims courts. Bollocks :-)

Just got this.. knew it was too good to be true..

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No, nothing has happened.

I am asking what paypal's protection is if you send someone £300 and they don't ship me a phone.
Paypal says they only cover you if the person has the amount in their account which sounds pointless to me because if you were going to rip someone off you'd take the money out asap.

Paypal pretty much always sides with the purchaser. Even if you do receive the phone, there's nothing stopping you stating that you never received it (unless shipped by recorded/signed for), opening a paypal dispute and them then returning your money...

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you must be desperate for that phone.... ;p

Paypal pretty much always sides with the purchaser. Even if you do receive the phone, there's nothing stopping you stating that you never received it (unless shipped by recorded/signed for), opening a paypal dispute and them then returning your money...

Problem is, if the seller empties their account and disappears.. paypal won't get you your money back.

Problem is, if the seller empties their account and disappears.. paypal won't get you your money back.

Could they not just claim it from the card provider?

Meh, anyway thing to remember is not to buy flashy tech off of eBay unless you're sure it's a genuine seller

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you must be desperate for that phone.... ;p

Yes.

The only useful spare I have has been boxed and moved to the new place.

Could they not just claim it from the card provider?

They don't say anything about this. You don't have to link paypal to a bank account though so far as I'm aware.

Paypal is shit. I'm sure David can rustle up a new service to complete with it in in a couple of hours!

Just checked Ebay and the price on those phones is between £420 and £480, dodgy sellers offer a low price to reel in the suckers.

Don't you have insurance on your original phone that you can claim on?

Contents insurance. £150 excess for a £300 phone. I'll probably claim on it anyway and maybe try and get the Samsung fixed but I still need a new phone..

Buying the phone from Google works out about £360+65 VAT = ~£420

You were saved by the skin of your teeth, hippy.

That will teach you to advertise here like everybody else, not trawl on some eBay.

Eh?

Forgive me if this has been covered elsewhere- what happened to the Samsung?

Also I feel you should wait until the 1st of March and get an X10.

Eh?

So you haven't noticed, that our advertising section looks like Gumtree recently? :-)

Ah I see. No I've been busy being unconscious and breaking shit..

What happened?

hahahahahahahahahahahahha!

Realised he's just signed up to stay in the UK, he fainted, wuss.

I did more damage than murtle! BOOM!

What happened?

I dropped it.

Twice.

Ouch!

It's just like my Nokia. Left phone in the pocket, hung my jacket on the door, kid slammed the door shut, phone died.

The reference to unconsciousness led me to believe you tried to straighten your mudguard post Wests, if you just dropped it then meh.