Which decent casual SPD shoes? Dzr, Chrome, Quoc Pham, etc

I love my DZRs, just wondering if Chromes are better? Guess there's probably not much in it.

My DZR was the Mission Workshop one, build quality were also fairly poor, but mainly it wasn't as stiff as the Chrome.

But lose laces, those goddamn laces are annoying if you're used to the strap/buckle/BOA/etc. so if you're getting those kind of shoes, swap the laces for those tough boots one.

laces are more effort than straps or velcro? Shocking.

Stating the obvious naturally, the laces are pretty weak to begun with, hence the recommendation of boot lace.

i.e. my DZR, it's not worn and the soles is seperating;

Actually I just realised I can just take them off, the glue were pretty weak;

How long have you had those for ed? Mine are still awesome after 6+ months of daily wear.

Oh daily use for... 4 months I reckon (the last pair last 2 months before exchanging it).

It's the Mission Workshop one, so it's their first forays in SPD trainer, and they used to have problem with the shoes separating.

why the either/or?
they are both designed to do the same thing, casual spd shoes, I prefer the look of the DZR's but I flexed the sole of the chrome's in store and they felt plenty stiff enough. Neither one of them are ever going to feel as good and snug as a pair of sidi's, but you'll look better walking down the street.

You should swap out the laces though, the one's that came with my ovis' were hella too long, and double knotting was a pre requisite, and even then they needed to be tucked in, which didn't stop them from coming loose and getting caught in the crank.

Ps I'm not sure how long people believe their cycling footwear should last for, a year? two? as long as the bike you ride them on? But there's nothing wrong with buying more than one pair, and changing between them, so some dzr's and some chrome's, so that you'll get more wear out of them.

that is all..

Araldite.

anyone know what the sizing is like on the chromes?

I had to go down a full size on the Chromes and my normal size was far too big. They do have them in Tokyo Fixed and I think Fitzrovia Cycles.

I did the same. I'm a 47 in Sidis but the Chrome 47 was far too big so I swapped it for the 46 and that fits perfectly.

Fuckin'ell - you've got some plates!

I'm very stable in high winds.

Actually I just realised I can just take them off, the glue were pretty weak;

sand down the plastic sole a bit then glue it back in with impact adhesive. It's what I use to hold my shoes together and it seems to work fine. I found not having my shoes done up tight enough seemed to put more stress on the bond between the plastic sole and the rubber outer sole.

Just glue the inner onto your foot, Ed.

Or screw the cleats to the soles of your feet. Problem solved.

from what i can tell chromes are much stiff because the shiv is aluminium not nylon, however i find that if i need to walk any distance in my chromes the heels rip my feet to shreds

No casual shoes, but the bottom plate on one of my sidis has started to seperate.
should i use:
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or
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has anyone tried the 5ten spd shoes?

I've had some pretty good results with shoe goo in the past, but make sure you use it outside, otherwise you will be tripping your balls off within minutes. It apparently causes birth defects in california as well, so avoid using it there...

Exactly. Be careful because your kids will turn out like Paris Hilton.

been using my chromes daily since posting about them in this thread.

As for the sizing, I'd recommend trying them out first. Chrome themselves recommend buying half a size smaller than normal.

I did that, but they actually felt VERY snug when I first put them on. Almost too tight. I think shoe sizes are so variable between brands (at least I find that) that its hard to judge what's going to be right.

Anyhow, I chose to ride them despite their snugness and they have now loosened up enough to be comfortable to wear all day long should I choose to (I don't, as my place of work has a glass staircase, and I don't think cleats and glass go well together)

The lace guard is very good, no obvious wear or damage this far, and they are veery nice and stiff. Better in that regard than my similarly priced cheap specialized mtb shoes, certainly.

from what i can tell chromes are much stiff because the shiv is aluminium not nylon, however i find that if i need to walk any distance in my chromes the heels rip my feet to shreds

I did notice the heels slipped on mine at first, but that went away once they wore in.

Maybe it's best to buy them feeling snug, because they'll loosen up but not too much causing that nasty rubbage.

Always Riding now sell the DZR Minna!

Will be buying these very soon...

£95 though!

Yeah, I got my current pair in Jan 2011 from Continuum Cycles for about £60 - but that means flying to NYC to get them.