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It would be nice if when you clicked on User CP, it took you straight to the control panel. So that you can get there with one click and without having to go there, and then move the cursor down to Control Panel. A very slight and quick movement it may be, but it is slightly irritating. Ditto with having to hover over Posts, and then click on New Posts, it would be good if it could go straight to New Posts. Ditto also with Forums -> Home, Classifieds -> All etc.
Also, are you expecting people to be using version 3 at all?
Great job with the optional font size thing.
Will now donate, as I've just realised how much work this must take.
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It would be nice if when you clicked on User CP, it took you straight to the control panel. So that you can get there with one click and without having to go there, and then move the cursor down to Control Panel. A very slight and quick movement it may be, but it is slightly irritating. Ditto with having to hover over Posts, and then click on New Posts, it would be good if it could go straight to New Posts. Ditto also with Forums -> Home, Classifieds -> All etc.
Also, are you expecting people to be using version 3 at all?
Great job with the optional font size thing.
Will now donate, as I've just realised how much work this must take.
The problem with navigation when someone clicks "User CP" is that on touch devices (mobile phones, tablets, some laptops), they'd never be able to see the open menu.
On touch devices, hover actions are performed by clicking. So they touch "User CP" and then see the menu.
You see the problem there? I wouldn't know which they wanted to do.
So to avoid any confusion, touch and hover are both: Open drop down navigation.
And the v3 interface has been disabled today. With this one now having relative font sizes it works much better on mobile devices.
Not as good as v3... but then v3 suffered on everything that wasn't a thread or post page. The UserCP, subscribed threads and private messages were almost unusable on v3.
I have to decide which to invest in now, and support whilst I build the new... and fewer changes are better than many changes, and fewer things to support is better than many things to support... so I opted to modify this style rather than try to run both or support both.
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wow, just logged in. nice work!
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And why a sans-serif font, when serifed fonts are naturally more readable.
Actually. not the case on the web.
Sans-serif constantly comes out top of readability tests on the web.
Perhaps when every device has 300dpi then it would be different, but for now... sans-serif wins on the web.
Serif continues to be king in print.
As the default, yes.
You're right on print... there's so much empirical evidence on that it's not even up for debate.
It is, of course, true that for most people serif fonts are easier to read, but there are exceptions depending on a person's individual requirements. For many dyslexic people, the less complexity, the better, and the best fonts to use for them tend to be sans serif fonts like Arial or Comic Sans, as they are very simple. Also, different people with different visual impairments require different font sizes. There is a wide range.
Does anyone want the text larger?
I'm (mildly) hyperlexic, so I prefer a smaller font. What was the previous default font, David? I'd quite like to retain that, as I've just been through the other fonts on my system and can't seem to find it--or perhaps I've just not tried that font with the right size setting.
You have to consider that if he knew what he was talking about and was really concerned about readability he wouldn't have set his article in a serif font.
The main scientific reason he is wrong is that we do not actually recognise and read words by looking at their letters. We recognise word shapes. We even recognise sentence shapes. Our brains store these shapes for future use and recall them instantly, enabling us to read much much faster than if we had to actually read the letters and construct each word they spelled. By increasing the font size to such a degree you have made it too big to do this easily, essentially reducing the number of words that we can scan in one go.
By making the letters bigger you therefore do not necessarily increase readability. Once the text is big enough to render the letters properly then it's probably big enough to read
Yes, although it depends on people's ability to engage with visual complexity. Most people would read in the way you describe. Severely dyslexic people, for instance, may not even recognise full word shapes, but only the beginning of words, which is why if you read a text they'd written, you might see something like 'the new caterpillar was estranged in open to ...' for 'the new category was established in order to ...' Hyperlexic people are the opposite in that they don't recognise word shapes, but individual letter shapes in high detail. They don't tend to need the simplification you describe for fast reading.
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I'm (mildly) hyperlexic, so I prefer a smaller font. What was the previous default font, David? I'd quite like to retain that, as I've just been through the other fonts on my system and can't seem to find it--or perhaps I've just not tried that font with the right size setting.
Scratch that, I've got it.
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When I click on one of the As while in the 'compose' frame, it says 'Invalid Thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator'. Should the As be there in the compose frame?
Also, the setting that I've chosen for thread display isn't followed in the 'compose' window. The font here is still very large. I think this came up earlier and was presumed sorted. Firefox 10.0.2 under Windows XP.
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Ha, having just returned from the 'compose' frame to thread display after posting, it turns out that clicking the 'A' while composing did change the default font size, after all, even though it didn't return me to the compose window and displayed an error message.
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I'm confused by what the compose frame is, and where the font is larger than other fonts.
I mean the display after you click 'reply' or 'quote'. The font is too large inside the editing window.
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The problem with navigation when someone clicks "User CP" is that on touch devices (mobile phones, tablets, some laptops), they'd never be able to see the open menu.
On touch devices, hover actions are performed by clicking. So they touch "User CP" and then see the menu.
You see the problem there? I wouldn't know which they wanted to do.
So to avoid any confusion, touch and hover are both: Open drop down navigation.
And the v3 interface has been disabled today. With this one now having relative font sizes it works much better on mobile devices.
Not as good as v3... but then v3 suffered on everything that wasn't a thread or post page. The UserCP, subscribed threads and private messages were almost unusable on v3.
I have to decide which to invest in now, and support whilst I build the new... and fewer changes are better than many changes, and fewer things to support is better than many things to support... so I opted to modify this style rather than try to run both or support both.
Damn people with their expensive touch devices spoiling it for everyone. I guess that makes sense though.
I was using version 3 before (I think it was just default when I signed up?), but it was changing between version 2 and 3 weirdly today and I didn't know what the hell was happening, so I read up about version 2 and stuff and have changed to it. I like it, although the bright white is a bit bright white. Although I didn't notice any problems with any parts of the site with version 3, either on Mac Os X or on BlackBerry.
Also the link in the thread 'New style testing theme 3.0 and 2.0' still lets you turn it to version 3.[B][/B]
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Great improvements going on. Nice work.
Would setting a maximum line length be possible, or would it cause chaos?
It currently expands as the browser window does, which is fine but means a 20+ word length lines what I get when I resize the browser window to the smallest size to practically work with the User CP page (and it's columns).
I'm using the site with (something like) 9 or 10 pt text going on. I'm on Mac OS10.7.3 and Chrome.
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[URL="http://www.lfgss.com/"][/URL]*clever >*
A A A A
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[URL="http://www.lfgss.com/"][/URL]*clever >*
A A A A
Nah, just picks different style sheets to load.
Dumb is the fact that between the stylesheets there are only 3 characters difference but I make you download all 6KB again.
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I'm so not sure it should be called genius. And I'm pretty sure there's not much precedent.
It's very very bad practise and if I were mentoring someone I would tell them to never do it.
As hippy pointed out elsewhere, occasionally I break more than I fix.