Time Atac Pedals

If you're getting any Chrome shoes, then go for a Shimano, their cleats are harder wearing. I love my Chromes, but once the sole starts wearing out, the soft Time cleats won't last if you walk a lot on them.

Ok ill go with a cheap shimano then. Thank you guys for the advice.

Nope just don't get the chrome shoes.

Care to elaborate?

they're just generally a bit crap

Maybe you'd prefer these?

They're fucking underrated.

they're just generally a bit crap

Compared to what? Dedicated bike shoes? Other casual shoes? Quality? ergonomics?
As far as I experienced, they do the job they were meant to do. They're not 'perfect' for either walking or cycling, but they were never designed to be dedicated to either.

They're not actually casual looking enough to make you look like you're wearing normal shoes and they don't provide enough of a benefit over just using clips and doubles to warrant them imo. If you want to cycle in shoes that will feel solid get something designed for cycling performance

^this is why I rarely wear my causal clipless shoes anymore.

My MTB shoes are more comfy for riding, walking and standing; they also last well and look purposeful as oppose to chromes that just look like normal shoes gone a bit wrong.

Hi ATACers, I've been using SPD on and off for a past few years and I regularly service and maintain the cleats/contact surface on the pedals so I have a smooth action on a reasonably high tension.
Everything has been grand untill yesterday when I did a skid and my leading foot un-clipped leading to a pretty impressive superman.
I've tightened up the pedal by a few notches but it's left me feeling pretty nervous on the road :/

Is the general consensus here that ATAC's have less tendance to fail on me like my spuds did?

Yes but it's personal preference. Some will say SPD some will say ATAC. I've used both and have had/heard of failures with both. Things from pedals ripping off axles to unclipping during skids. If you've used SPD for a while, try ATAC's and see how you like it. Put the left cleat in right shoe and vice versa for more float if you feel nervous.

They're not actually casual looking enough to make you look like you're wearing normal shoes and they don't provide enough of a benefit over just using clips and doubles to warrant them imo. If you want to cycle in shoes that will feel solid get something designed for cycling performance

That still doesn't answer the question of what makes them particularly 'crap'. All you've really given are objections based on preference. How formal a shoe do you wear on a daily basis to dismiss them as not casual enough? They simply look like a derivative of a pair of Vans.
http://31.media.tumblr.com/77077f89e8110d24ed0b5fa15aaca5c3/tumblr_mvy9pyTfa81qh2ly7o1_1280.jpg
How does that look like a pair of shoes gone wrong?

The second part is just as difficult to quantify. They feel solid enough for the limited purpose they were made for, otherwise they wouldn't have been made no?
They way I see it is, if you skid, forget them immediately. The laces will be your death. If you use brakes and are not riding a bike for sheer performance, consider them.
They're good at the limited functionality they were designed for.
Let's agree on one thing though, despite what we all think, no, we don't look good in bike shoes. No one does.

Is the general consensus here that ATAC's have less tendance to fail on me like my spuds did?

I would say yes but obviously SPD users (scoble) will argue that they're fine and whenever you unclip it's "user error" or whatever.

I went ATAC-SPD-ATAC-SPDSL-KEO-ATAC

ATACs have definitely been the best for riding and skidding about the city, I originally ditched them because they unclipped but I later found out this was because the sole of my shoes stopped me getting properly into the pedal.

I much prefer ATACs because they feel smoother than spuds and rarely unclip when I don't mean them to; I'd say it's worth giving them a try because only you will be able to tell if they work nicely for you.

Thanks for the answers Larry/Indra I'll definitely give them a go. When it comes to float I don't need any really, I like my foot to be locked but what has made me nervous is a repeat of yesterday. I've got a new build on the way so I'll stick some on there and report back after a few months.

That's also what I like about time, they have foot but it also feels like they try to return you to your set cleat position because the bars are pretty much springs.

^ That sounds like a good combo to me.

That still doesn't answer the question of what makes them particularly 'crap'. All you've really given are objections based on preference. How formal a shoe do you wear on a daily basis to dismiss them as not casual enough? They simply look like a derivative of a pair of Vans.
http://31.media.tumblr.com/77077f89e8110d24ed0b5fa15aaca5c3/tumblr_mvy9pyTfa81qh2ly7o1_1280.jpg
How does that look like a pair of shoes gone wrong?

The second part is just as difficult to quantify. They feel solid enough for the limited purpose they were made for, otherwise they wouldn't have been made no?
They way I see it is, if you skid, forget them immediately. The laces will be your death. If you use brakes and are not riding a bike for sheer performance, consider them.
They're good at the limited functionality they were designed for.
Let's agree on one thing though, despite what we all think, no, we don't look good in bike shoes. No one does.

tbf i was talking about these ones.

http://www.chromeindustries.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/650x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/k/u/kurskpro_black_hero_4_4.jpg

i just feel like they have no benefit over using clips and straps and the quality is somewhat lacking. I get that if you use clipless and MTB shoes mostly, having something a bit more casual to pop on is nice. Although you could just take a change of shoes

Actually adding to my point, using something like VANS with clips and straps feels way stiffer because your foot has much more support when pedaling rather than the whole shoe flexing around the little MTB pedal which really sucks (maybe if you have smaller feet this is less of an issue or summin). So they're not very good at being performance shoes, they're don't look very nice and they're uncomfy if you try and wear them off the bike. That's why they're crap

They're great as a secondary shoes, y'know, for 20 miles poodling about in London, while your MTB for serious business.

Small feet right here, I can confirm they're alright for the old daily casual trip. I worked on them for a year and aside from a couple of weeks wearing in pain, they were great.
Didn't think about the pallet sized foot crew, that would definitely be a pain thinking about it now, the soft upper and stiff lower will turn the back of your foot to grated cheese.

I have a pair of DZR Minnas that are pretty rubbish for cycling in as they flex loads, but they're better than clips and straps and you don't have to change pedals. As they are crap for cycling in it means they're pretty good for walking in, so are perfect if I'm doing a short ride across town to a gallery or something.

Had my first ATAC unclip while skidding ever this morning

potential user error but i fucking shit a brick either way

I thought people move to Atac for that reason?

Sorry to hear about your unclip Rogan, you on the older ATACs?