I f*cking hate indoor interval training!

anything harder than the easiest gearing makes pedalling quite hard!

any thoughts?

htfu

I've got the same thing. It's quite an aggressive resistance curve. I killed the bearings on the original resistance unit, and when it was replaced the main difference (apart from the substantial reduction in noise) was an immediate increase in resistance at any given speed (back to the levels of the original unit ~7 years earlier).

Unless I'm doing standing stuff, which I don't really bother with any more, I only ever use my 39t with the Cycleops. Even for VO2Max type intervals, I'd still only be in 39/15-13 for a functional range of cadences. I collected a bit of data from a few people, and the general picture is this:

(mph / watts)
14 / 150
16 / 200
19 / 300
22 / 400
24 / 500
27 / 700
30 / 900

You can see just how much difference 0.5mph makes.

You saddle angle or saddle is off if your nob is going numb.
I've been there, it's not fun.
It is if you sit on your hand to numb that too.

TrainerRoad - Has anyone played with it?

Reading through it, it looks like paying a load of cash for something that you could set up for yourself.

It's got pretty graphs and numbers though.

Get training peaks or golden chetah for free if you want analysis.

And everyone loves a 'stranger'.

TrainerRoad - Has anyone played with it?

Reading through it, it looks like paying a load of cash for something that you could set up for yourself.

It's got pretty graphs and numbers though.

I've been using it for a few weeks and am impressed so far. It works using virtual power based on the power curve of your particular turbo and you ride workouts following a graph. It appeals to my inner geek and has been keeping me interested so far this winter. Another nice feature is Sufferfest video integration.

I've got the same thing. It's quite an aggressive resistance curve. I killed the bearings on the original resistance unit, and when it was replaced the main difference (apart from the substantial reduction in noise) was an immediate increase in resistance at any given speed (back to the levels of the original unit ~7 years earlier).

Unless I'm doing standing stuff, which I don't really bother with any more, I only ever use my 39t with the Cycleops. Even for VO2Max type intervals, I'd still only be in 39/15-13 for a functional range of cadences. I collected a bit of data from a few people, and the general picture is this:

(mph / watts)
14 / 150
16 / 200
19 / 300
22 / 400
24 / 500
27 / 700
30 / 900

You can see just how much difference 0.5mph makes.

Cheers buddy. It feels awfully hard. I guess I need to keep at it and I'll get used to it. I hope

You saddle angle or saddle is off if your nob is going numb.
I've been there, it's not fun.

Maybe it's level when both wheels are on the floor but not when strapped into the turbo, check, make sure it's level when on the turbo, or slightly down but only a tiny bit.
Also, do you stand up at all to relieve pressure? I stand every 5 mins or so for 5-10 seconds to relieve pressure. Also helps with reducing the likelihood of sores developing.

Little update:
I've been using some fairly cheap own brand padded shorts I bought from Condor. These were still in the wash so I used a pair of bib shorts last night. Result - no numbness.
I bought the shorts specifically for wearing under cycling trousers which I only wear when riding my steamroller. Their purchase also coincided with fitting a new saddle and a lot of discomfort despite having the same saddle on another bike with no issues whatsoever.
Looks like it's the shorts that are the problem...

That's good.
Maybe look at some chammos cream, for longer sessions. Things get hot and sweating on the turbo, which can lead to more chaffing.

Also think about how often you are actually out of the saddle when riding normally; you'd never do even 5 minutes completely static in the saddle.

I do.

I've moved the bedroom contents around so I can fit a turbo trainer in there.
I think I'm going to get a Computrainer and leave it setup there. We'll see how much use it gets though..

I actually got out of the saddle for the first time properly on the rollers yesterday. Scared the crap out of me.
I'm fine sat down watching the laptop to keep me amused but as soon as I start moving around reaching for a drink, wiping some sweat off or fiddling with the down tube shifters, it all gets a bit wobbly.
Getting there though...

My CAAD lives on the tubo, everything is there and ready to go.
The biggest lesson i've learnt is the last thing you want to be doing when starting a session is fucking around. I'll always be prepped way before i kick off then go do other-things and come back and start. Starting a session pissed off because the tyre was flat, powermeter not working, skewer not tightening is just a pain in the arse and a massive de-motivtor.

I don't TT like hippy, but rarely get out the saddle on the road. Waste of energy.

Yep Skinny, this is why I want a semi-perm setup if I buy a stupidly expensive turbo. I want to use it, not make excuses for not using it like gym membership.

I'd be wasting so much potential energy if I didn't get out of the saddle, it would be a crying shame.

Also 'semi-perm' here. My wife uses it more than me. I probably average about 20 minutes per fortnight annually, if that.

Maybe that's why you go up hill a little faster than me.
Hmm. ;)

It's just the way I'm built. Strong up top, powerful glutes, genetically rubbish quads - hypoplasia of the vastus medialis oblique. I can't sit and stomp hard; only quickly.

A permanent turbo bike is appealing, as has been said it's often enough to defeat my fragile motivation if the room needs moving around a bit to fit the bike in front of the telly etc.

It's "on the list" of things to do to get one room setup so that it's easy to sling the bike in the turbo, then put it away neatly afterward. Possibly some sort of drawbridge style sheet of plywood with the turbo and front wheel block mounted to it that folds up into a cupboard.

It's a long list though.

Those Wattbikes look the doggie's danglies. But mucho ££££.

^^ I have the luxury of an integral garage which gives me a head start but I'm still not quite there. The rollers could stay put but I fold them up to ease the tension on the belt. What I really need is to get some form of permanent 'distraction' in place. Currently it's a case of taking the laptop down and finding something to watch, usually on youtube. I've tried staring at a stopwatch but that really is mind numbingly boring.
The big bonus right now is the temperature of the garage. Cold to start off with but perfect once I'm warmed up.

I got a little amp/speaker assembly for my laptop as I couldn't hear the laptops native speakers over the turbo.

This meant that when not 100% Voecklered I could enjoy Black Books or similar, whilst suffering in an epic fashion.

I was catching up on The Fast Show last night and agree, speakers would be useful too.

Interval training is a lot like making love to a beautiful woman...

Actually I have no idea if it is. Never done the sex personally.