The Ultimate Brakeless/Front/Rear/How many brakes? thread

.

Edit: My chain failed today,

That wouldn't have happened if you had a boyfriend to make sure everything was ok.

I'm gonna get me one of those boyfriend things, do you think my wife will mind?

1 She's read this thread and her only comments were "why the fuck are you wasting your time arguing with these idiots, it makes you just as stupid as them."

It's rare to find a couple who are so obviously well matched. Do you have to persuade her to take the pill every day rather than weekly or is she the one who has to persuade you not to recycle the condoms?

That wouldn't have happened if you had a boyfriend to make sure everything was ok.

Or an 'ordinary bike' :)

I'm done here

1 She's read this thread and her only comments were "why the fuck are you wasting your time arguing with these idiots, it makes you just as stupid as them."

She is probably right, most outsiders would probably say the same. Only you'll never be as stupid as the people on this forum, don't overrate your abilities.

"why the fuck are you wasting your time arguing with these idiots, it makes you just as stupid as them."

+1

You lot are a bunch of assholes! Making him feel uncomfortable just because he could not understand our concern for his girlfriend. The insinuation that he was utterly stupid and putting his girlfriends life in danger was unfair and bad.

In no way was there any serious message in everyone pointing out the potential risk, I just saw people behaving like assholes. This never used to happen in the old days.

This thread has not been running since August 2007 and no one has ever been criticised for riding brakeless in it previously. Clearly things are not like they used to be.

Idiots were always welcomed with open arms. Here was the second response to my first thread here:

Brutal, if you don't search beforehand

http://www.londonfgss.com/thread7255.html

Sic im boys!

No one has ever been told to use the search until recently, this kind of behaviour is intolerable.

+1

says the man who ploughed into the back of me on a bridges ride because he could not stop!

Gadzooks.

Chris I do think some people are being harsh on both you and your partner, assuming that neither of you have any bike control when they probably haven't met you, what with you living outside zone one of the tube (I bet 'wigan' will, if that is his name, hasn't even made it as far as finchley)... And for the sake of clarity I will point out that direct drive (which isn't the same as a fixed bike using a chain as transmisson and brake) without any other brake is infact road legal as direct drive counts as two brakes.

You previously asked for someone to give an example of why a single brake would be dangerous. Can I ask a question, if your girlfriend was cycling along at a fairly fast pace pulled on the brake and a fray within the cablehousing (which therefore you wouldn't see in your meticulas checks) caused the brake cable to snap, what would she do?

The reason a fixed drive train is safer (although I'd still have a second brake on a 'safety' bike) is because you can see wear on a chain and so being a careful mechanic should be enough to stop you ever having to think about the above question (unless of course you dehouse the brake everyday?!). Having said that, every brakeless rider I've met has known the answer to the above question... Hopefully your girlfriend will too?

knornight2

dont even bother trying to reason with him

Actualy my original reason for posting was to disagree with sparkies legal eagle in his article three pages back!

He said you have to have a front brake, I'm pretty sure the law states you have to have two independant brakes, not that they have to be on different wheels?! Ie a fixed with back brake is legal, a caliper and disc brake on the same wheel, so long as there are two seperate levers, cables and actual braking mechanisms...

This brings me onto the thing that bugs me so much about this arguement, the law is set up as it is not because two brakes are better for stopping but because if one brake fails you still have a back up (except for direct drive as obviously if a direct drive brake fails your wheels probably fallen off :)

Ps, in case you are having a problem with the answer to my question mr Borneo, it has been mentioned at least twice in the last three pages...

He said you have to have a front brake, I'm pretty sure the law states you have to have two independant brakes, not that they have to be on different wheels?! Ie a fixed with back brake is legal, a caliper and disc brake on the same wheel, so long as there are two seperate levers, cables and actual braking mechanisms...

.

True.
Racing tricycles have double brakes on the front only:

Awesome tags on this thread, BTW

Cheers luci, I noticed that it said on ed's mums cycling proficiency cert that you need a front brake as well as fixed wheel... So I think it's an old misconception, but I'd like someone to be able to quote the law?

true.
Racing tricycles have double brakes on the front only:

want!

Direct drive to front wheel
What kind of normal bike is front wheel drive, or are you a clown cycling backwards?

[quote=Digger;1612427]It's an ordinary Bicycle, so direct drive to the front wheel...

For posterity
[/quote]

Yes, for posterity.

"Ordinary" is another name for Penny Farthing. Noob.

EDIT: Damn, Digger beat me to it.

fat bastard, far too slow

shall i quote your tardiness and lardiness for posterity?

I'm faster than you, dumbarse.

thankfully my noob status to cycling saved me from the ordinary bicycle, wooden rims, downtube shifters etc etc

i pity myself for the privation of missing the above

Don't knock the downtube shifters, my friend.
I won't have anything else.
Them or nothing, preferably nothing.

As for the tricycle, they had one like it in bronze in Bob Jacksons a bit back. Someone had payed the deposit the never turned up for it.
The lads in the shop were laughing at it, and I did too, but I secretly lusted after the shiny little minx.

I'd really like a utility tricycle, with a hardwood bench on the back and fittings for a big fuck off basket. Probably go for disk brakes too.

Who cares about other people's braking arrangements when there are people in the world who can do this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W7N-jEl93o

I have over 15 brakes. The end.

I've shaved off my moustache.

That's it, I'm not going to Yorkshire.

How else am I going to keep warm under the cold Yorkshire sun?