Toe Overlap

^^^^ No offense intended Munky. Just banter rest assured.

too true and sound advice but I had been kind of caught out through a mixture of not paying due attention and being being cut up coming out of a roundabout, that and the guy who swung his door open was parked (in a fucking smart car) tucked just in front of a lorry out of sight. horrible mix of things and since then just been a bit para about toevolution.

I would recommend you harden the fuck up.

no worries wrongcog,

how hard do you want it Skully?

too true and sound advice but I had been kind of caught out through a mixture of not paying due attention and being being cut up coming out of a roundabout, that and the guy who swung his door open was parked (in a fucking smart car) tucked just in front of a lorry out of sight. horrible mix of things and since then just been a bit para about toevolution.

All I can says is to simply try and ride in the primary position more often, the more you take the lane, the more in control you are.

having says that I'd still recommended cycle training, as it will make a difference to not only how you ride, but being able to feel confident knowing that you have every scenario thought out.

You're the one with the toe overlap issue.

I'd had a few bikes (one still) that have overlap. First time I scraped my toe it was unnerving. After that I learned to steer sharply (when I needed to do this) around that part of the pedal stroke. Sorry to hear you fell off. Get back on and just learn to anticipate it.

That hard. So, not much.

All my bike have toe overlap on account to needing a very short top tube despite being 6", the only one that doesn't have it is the 26" wheel tourer.

The good thing is that you can take your incident and learnt from it, even touring bike have toe overlap, it's not a design fault, just a disadvantage if the top tube is a bit on the short side/big feet.

Short top tube and big feet... So it's not true what they say then?

for sure, yep been doing that, will just have to get used to it. toverlap never been an issue before.

unless i]ve been told the wrong thing all these years

learn to counter-steer.
over much more than walking pace you don't steer a bike by turning the bars, you do it by leaning.
to induce a lean to the left, push on the left side of the bar to move it further away from you and lean the bike over. You are now steering to the right ever so slightly but turning left.

cue lots of "don't lean" comments

This is what Stephen Fry says. Must be true.

Toe overlap is not a big deal really when you have to turn (just lean!).
It becomes a big problem when your foot is between the down tube and the wheel after the turn and you have to go straight :) this is when I trip and fall over.

had the same problem, didnt fall off though luckily, i just changed my crankset from 175 to 165 and the problems sorted, didnt know what a difference 10mm would make, something to think about

The frame is an 80s peugot track.

Is it .. Black, with orange decals, by any chance??

toe over delap

^ Everyone repped apart from...

Who? apart from who? says it bitch...

The frame is an 80s peugot track.

wasn't there a bit of a fuss a while ago over whether peugeot had ever had track frames?

Oh Peugeot do track frame, just made by other framebuilder rather than their own (even English framebuilder made track frame for them too), so it's quite rare to find an actual Peugeot one.

so was that a yes or a no ? ^

Is it .. Black, with orange decals, by any chance??

Heh...... no

ive heard you can stop it on the black 80's ones with the orange decals using a switch on the back of the fork crown............

i dont understand the question? any real track frame with proper rake will have a tight wheelbase resulting in a huge overlap unless you are running small cages. You could always get a road fork 45+ on it. that might leave free clearance with mediu cages but it fucks with geometry.

Just built for my son as he is a cross racer with the Pure CX forks and there is nearly an inch toe overlap with the front wheel...
His SPD's are set as far forward as possible and he is running a 165mm crankset...
This appears to be the usual Made in Britain throw back to British Leyland design fault and for him the bike is un-rideable not to mention dangerous...
Everytime he makes contact the wheel shifts and creates brake rub (no matter how hard I tighten the skewer)...
The fork rake/frame geometry is wrong and I have contacted Kinesis. This is also the second frame as the first one was sent with excess paint spots and a crack in the cable tensioner thread... Now I know why I loved his Giant race bike...
The professional mechanic who built it up said he had seen nothing like it as my son rode off and nearly crashed. making a turn... I was thinking of a Pro 6 (no chance) and what a let down for the boy...
I posted this on the Kinesis Facebook page and they quickly took it down.