Mudguards

SKS is lighter than Berthoud
Using Berthoud stays, the SKS is* way* lighter

I didn't says it's lighter than Berthoud, just heavy.

Chromoplastics have a horrible square profile compared to the Bluemels wich are a much better bet if you have tight clearances to worry about.

starting a new job next week and will be riding to work so have had to put mudguards on, the fronts ok, but the back is a cheapo mtb thing like a crudcatcher
put some plastic strips (made from the same stuff as estate agent signs) to close the rear wheel in.
After a test in that massive puddle in north harrow I found that most of the water actually ends up coming down on the seatpost near the bottom bracket, the brake area remained dry, so feet and lower legs dry but arse or rather bag on arse saturated see pic
am going to add some panels to stop it going onto the chain and chainstays tomorrow and maybe a large square will let you know

Actually I loathe any mudguards at all but was amazed how much crap actually hit the BB and the arse area!

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Because it's a shit mudguard!

Seeing as there's no mudguards braze ons, get some crud catchers or sks raceblades

full length mudguards would be so much better though, they'll keep you and the bike clean and dry

^^That's not a mudguard - it's not even a smallpuddleguard.

P-clips and some creativity with re-bending and cutting the stays should allow full guards to be fitted for the rainy season. Extending the front mudguard with a flap will go a long way towards keeping feet & BB dry as well. Just allow enough clearance for proper mud / snow / whatever to not fill the gap between tyre and guard.

£15 or so isn't much to pay for arriving at work with a bit of dignity / not having a wet arse...

Yeah, they're actually quite good.

Thanks for the feedback, the questions not one of money or fitting, it is that as soon as the weather improves whatever,s on, is going in the bin (til next year) and mainly that, as Clarkson puts it there's a "whiff of old fart" about full mudguards however well made.
What actually suprised me was how much crap is hitting the lower part of the seat post and chainstays some of which ends up on the chain, and unless you've got another pet hate of mine, the chain guard then has a good chance of getting on your trousers (or long skirt)!

so those old short mudguards are actually entirely useless
http://www.lfgss.com/thread42444.html

for me a bike the less accessories and no brakes the more beautiful the machine
unfortunately you need lights and you need something to stop "arse getting soaked"
some of the wooden ones are works of art http://www.lfgss.com/thread11567.html

(on these you're still gonna get shit all over you're lower legs anyway)

but still I don't want them om I have to have them

I love mine.
I wouldn't dream of riding a bike without mudguards at this time of year

I agree but bikes look ugly with mudguards

I'm trying to find something that has a bit of street cred, although you could argue that homemade botch jobs made of estate agent signs is a joke!
I had a gorgeous 1962 Carlton that had full mudguards from new, the chainstays area was still very very corroded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nucC0QfUGfQ

homemade mudguard!

And they look like a tit!

Short mudguards protect the brakes and very little else.
Photo shows the relationship between guard length and mud - think tangents - most of the crud on my BB/chain comes from the front wheel.

I live in an area where agricultural levels of mud on the road makes clean & dry preferable to smelling and looking like shit (much of the 'mud' has passed through cows) and for me the trade off against street cred is worth it.

Perhaps you need more than one bike?

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brilliant! thankyou very much, cam I ask if you could have a look at what hapening on the rear? with you're full guards are you still seeing crap coming down onto the BB and stays from above?
My ultimate aim is to cobble together a set up that actually "guards" enough I don't care about the look as I don't like any mudguards, but as you say they are needed.

And they look like a tit!

In a world where they all look shit, at these look like they're not trying to look good
these are the BenDover of the mudguard world!

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There ain't nothing wrong with Ben Dover

with your full guards are you still seeing crap coming down onto the BB and stays from above?

Some - but the quantity and direction of streaks and splashes suggests most comes from the front and below?

A front mudflap is being contrived over the weekend...

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I agree but bikes look ugly with mudguards

Don't kiss your mum with that mouth, it's not very nice.

Crud Roadracers.

Has there been a thread merge in the time it takes to upload 3 photos from rural Shropshire?

Some - but the quantity and direction of streaks and splashes suggests most comes from the front and below?

A front mudflap is being contrived over the weekend...

If your mudguard isn't close to your tyres, the the murk will get out easily as well, as for the front mudflap, make it as long as you can, picture below illustrated what you're referring to;

Alternately you can just get the SKS mudflap and put it on the rear;

Went on a wet ride on the Surrey Hills, no more murk to be found under the BB.

Don't know why you're so obsessed with how mudguards (or chainguards for that matter) look, when your bike looks like a bag of shit anyway.

thankyou once again, I must admit I've underestimated how much that front flap would make a difference! just wondering with the rear, mud being heavier would me more likely to travel in a straight line? would the more watery spray out more onto the chainstays? (from above)

The only reason I'm interested in the chainstays is crap going onto the chain then onto my "bell bottom" jeans!

Love it, yes thats exactly what I mean! that little catcher looks excellent!