Tubs

Ah cool I'll have a look at them. Limus have a polyester casing right? Does that mean they are less susceptible to rot?

Basically, yes. I've been using a pair of Challenge Fangos for the past year and they are pretty robust and have shown no signs of damage from rot. I've just started using a pair of Rhinos and they offer noticed discernable difference (although I've yet to use them in really bad mud where they are meant to come into their element) to the Fangos. From what I've heard I can expect not much more than a season's usage out of a pair of Dugast before the area around the base tape will rot (and no amount of aquaseal can prevent this).

Cheers Andy! Picked up a pair of limus, glue, sealant and swiss-stop yellows. Expect lots of thread mining and swearing.

Which glue?

Conti Carbon Rim Cement.

This is where you tell me I bought the wrong glue and the swearing begins, right?

No, I had considered using that myself.

It's meant to be very good once the tub is on, but a bit of a pain to apply, as it comes out of the tin as quite a viscid liquid- or, rather, more viscid than other tub glue.

I've not used it though- so this is hearsay, from the Internet.

The saga continues.

In a couple of articles on fixing cross tyres they use a product called Belgian tape.

http://www.cxmagazine.com/mechanical-mondays-gluing-cyclocross-tubulars

Has anyone here used this and is it possible to buy it in the uk? Or should I glue direct to the rim?

I use Jantex tape. And three layers of glue. Haven't rolled a tub yet.

just use normal tub tape ,ive never rolled a tub with it

Andy - so apply glue, then tape, then more glue, then glued tub? Then dry then aqua seal?

Perks - consensus seems to be that cx tubs need a stronger bond. Agree tape seems more straightforward though.

Andy - so apply glue, then tape, then more glue, then glued tub? Then dry then aqua seal?

Perks - consensus seems to be that cx tubs need a stronger bond. Agree tape seems more straightforward though.

I apply one layer of glue to both rim and tub and leave for 24 hours. Then apply another layer of glue to both, put the tape onto the rim, add a layer of glue to it and then mount the tub. Pump up to 80 psi and check if it's straight, deflate and straighten if required, then reinflate and leave to dry for 24 hours. I'd give it a bit longer before adding the aquaseal.

I'd never trust tape alone on a cyclocross tub, the low pressures and forces applied to the tub would be too much for tape and you'd roll it in next to no time.

Pave- specifically Belgian Pave, I was going to leave the cabron tubs at home and go for Open Pro's and Vittoria Pave tyres.

Would it be better lunacy (I'm thinking pinch flats and ride as positives) to run the tubular version of the Pave instead?

If you can afford it then do it, but given you'll not be racing the performance gains are minimal.

The others might skin me if I do get a p_nctr however, it's a sportive so, whilst we aren't racing at all, we will be trying to go as fast as fucking possible.

Start early then.

Cunning.

Andy - so apply glue, then tape, then more glue, then glued tub? Then dry then aqua seal?

Perks - consensus seems to be that cx tubs need a stronger bond. Agree tape seems more straightforward though.

if your paranoid Gorilla glue ,I use a smear of conti and standard tub tape

Cunning.

I meant all of you - something like 25000 people ride the Flanders sportive each year and you'll be walking up all the climbs due to the sheer number of people on the roads if you start any later than 0700.

Like an Epic Suffering (with added cobbles) version of the London to Brighton then?

Btw, you're riding French cobbles, not Belgian ones.

Just in case that some people are not aware, Decathlon in Surrey Quays carry Velox tub glue and a couple of different Vittoria tubs starting at £15 (the ones I use).

Btw, you're riding French cobbles, not Belgian ones.

Ah, maybe some research is in order. I was just looking forward to the Cheese afterward.

Cheers Andy, guess I'll be picking up some tape.

My mate came off his bike last night when his front wheel slipped on wet tarmac. The tyre hasn't puctured but it seems the tub has come away from the rim in a section about 10cm long, causing a wierd lump when you spin the wheel. So, I take it the tyre needs to be stuck back onto the rim. Do you need to use special tub glue for this kind of repair or can you use a more readily available substitute like Gorilla Glue that Perks mentioned above.

The tyre is a Clement Evolution

Thanks for any help in advance!

Anyone used the challenge volcano - http://www.inmotionproducts.com/shopexd.asp?id=246
looks like it might be a street skidders alternative to the rally or giro - handmade too!!