RLJ (Red Light Jumping). (The definitive bikeradar thread)

Woody Allen: Left turns on red are the only reason to live in California.

yep. made two of them tonight. full 360 degree endless unobscured view in each case, one within 10 yards of the other. the lights should just be switched off outside of certain times and road markings can simply apply.

so i can make a pretty good risk-benefit analysis, and run the same lights exactly the same way on my bike. stupid not to.

If somebody RLJs in a forest when there's nobody to see it, does anybody become envious?

potentially coniferous but unlikely envious. assuming no multipersonality disorders.

When you think about it laws are only for the weak of mind, stupid little people.

No question they should wait, stand in queues and so on- but why should we?

There are clearly two kinds of people in the world, and it would be lunacy to expect those of us who have reached enlightenment to play by the same rules as the muggles.

I'm all for breaking laws, but not those ones. When you are using the road you need to be prepared for someone elses idiocy. When you are on a bike or foot it's for your own protection, when you are using something larger, it's for the protection of others, no matter how much of an idiot they are.

Muggle

Damn straight, magic bastard.

For every red light I go through you should pay me for enriching your existence by allowing you to envy me.

I will PM you my Paypal address for this purpose.

Please do, my existence is pretty unenriched, I'm bitching on an internet forum. I should be out drunk riding.

If you RLJ when there's nobody there to see you do it, does it still count as RLJ'ing?

if i save 2 minutes a day for my whole life and reach 100, that nets me an extra 50.69 days of actual living time. i feel its actually more stupid to not do it. and just from my own perspective I look at those that don't as being a bit thick.

That'd only work if you bank that 2mins each day and adjust your schedule to make use of it in the future. Assuming a 30 day month and a normal working pattern (m-f 9-5), you'll be getting to work at 5am in 4 months time, at 1am in 8 months time.

^genius

That'd only work if you bank that 2mins each day and adjust your schedule to make use of it in the future. Assuming a 30 day month and a normal working pattern (m-f 9-5), you'll be getting to work at 5am in 4 months time, at 1am in 8 months time.

Yah yah yah. Just provides an illustration of whats possible. If I shave two minutes off my travel time once a day, which i easily exceed RLJing on a bike journey, it all adds to getting loads more living done at my destination over the course of my lifetime.

Everyone else will spend 50 more days on a road. Sat still. Joy. Fucking no brainer!

p.s. by the age of 100 your extra 56 days would probably consist of about 42 days sleeping, 7 days pissing yerself, and 7 days yelling "I remember when we would drive thru red lights, they just don't do it proper these days, 56 days extra life I earned I tell thee...mumble mumble, snore zzzz" at the nursing staff.

Happy accruing.

Nah, I'd prefer a little time enjoying my red light than getting to work early, to work or getting home early, to see my family.

Everyone else will spend 50 more days on a road. Sat still. Joy. Fucking no brainer!

What happens when everyone gets envious enough to follow your example?

http://www.cyclesportmag.com/news-and-comment/jonathan-vaughters-crossing-the-line/

This thread has been going since 2008!? didn't even think there was that much to say about it!

If your unsure, then stop, if your 100% sure its safe to go then go. Common fucking sense.

Unless you're in a car.

Or Cambridge.

Or drunk.

p.s. by the age of 100 your extra 56 days would probably consist of about 42 days sleeping, 7 days pissing yerself, and 7 days yelling "I remember when we would drive thru red lights, they just don't do it proper these days, 56 days extra life I earned I tell thee...mumble mumble, snore zzzz" at the nursing staff.

Happy accruing.

dufus - you were getting repped then. RLJing is life enhancing not extending. go on. try it. i dare you. you'll like it.

I take it your RLJs are left turns then? This is OK in the US as it's the expected behaviour of cars in some places

From memory, where those rules were introduced in the US, pedestrian deaths doubled virtually overnight. I'd have to look it up, though.

if i save 2 minutes a day for my whole life and reach 100, that nets me an extra 50.69 days of actual living time.

No it doesn't it earns you 2 minutes less of cycling time and two minutes more of living time on that day. You're not a master of time and space, you don't have a magic stopwatch that conserves your saved minutes for a rainy day sometime in the future even though you seem to think this is an entirely plausible concept. Do you also think that all the time you save by choosing the shorter queue at a supermarket is reusable too? How about all the times you didn't wash your hands after using the toilet. I bet you've got months stockpiled from all those awfully clever things you've saved time on. Congratulations, you're going to have 5 whole years of 'living time' in the future.

a bit thick.

Yes, you are

Yah yah yah. Just provides an illustration of whats possible. If I shave two minutes off my travel time once a day, which i easily exceed RLJing on a bike journey, it all adds to getting loads more living done at my destination over the course of my lifetime.

Everyone else will spend 50 more days on a road. Sat still. Joy. Fucking no brainer!

There's probably another 50 days if you refuse to queue in shops, another 200 if you refuse likewise in pubs, probably 500 to be had in restaurants. That's another 2 years & some. You might not be very popular though.