Bike porn

that was on the Look stand at l'Etape. Original team bike. Lust

Needs >>>

that particular curve would be less than appropriate..

/mdcc_tester

.^(Wasn't at Whatok)

I'm slightly surprised no ones offered up the eurobike shots of the new laser

That's right I forgot the trails were owned by people who are so obsessed with multi grand squishy bikes, fast lap times and how they look while doing it that they forgot how to actually have fun. Get over yourself already I never suggested it would be the best way to negociate off road trails, just a really fun one.

get over yourself prick. i never said anything about what would be the best way to negociate off road trails.
i just said it would be fun to watch you crash riding a brakless fixeh off road, as long as you don't lose a limb it would be worth it (well for me anyway).

Sure you're the one who enjoys watching people fall and I'm a prick. If you look OZ pointed out the no brakes thing and I agreed with him way before you even stuck your nose into this whole ordeal so I suggest *you *get over yourself.

i don't care about what you think i said; what you said; what you think i might have said; what i said and what you think it might mean or what you think i might have thought about what you said.
whatever it was you were wrong.

kebab

Sometimes going of road on a less than ideal bike can be fun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZznQGRNU1w

whatever it was you were wrong.

Compelling as usual.

[QUOTE=chris-aa]
aerodynamics is all in the small details
If more people realised this, pseudo-aero bikes would never sell.[/QUOTE]

This.

As a triathlete I'm insatiably drawn to whatever the next big fad is (preferably the more expensive the better), and I love TT bikes. But, I've just trawled through road.cc's Eurobike TT gallery and have to say I feel hugely disappointed. That white Canyon is lovely, I'm increasingly drawn to the new BMC but other than that there was reasonably little of interest in there.

I'm no expert on the aerodynamics of frame shapes but most of the bikes in there just struck me as carelessly thought out with brakes and wires everywhere. Why go to the extravagance of a crazy seat post cluster and still have the brakes sat out in the open (Orbea), Why go to the trouble of hiding the brakes from the wind and then run the cables out in the open and then go to the trouble of highlighting this with luminous cable guides (Stevens)? And what is it with the massive tubing on the De Rosa with no internal cable routing at all??

To me TT bikes are about simplicity and having as little exposed to the wind as possible. Step 1: Allow for a versatile fit, Step 2: Hide the brakes, hide the cables and hide the di2 battery and maybe do something clever with the stem... The big names such as the SC, Shiv, Time Machine all seem to have got this more or less under control (as does the ugly new Slice) but it seems so many TT bikes don't consider the basics before they start worrying about doing something crazy with the frame. They don't even seem to go to the effort of copying the top frames!

What I'd love to see is an updated P3 with integrated brakes, clever minimal cabling and a hidden di2 battery. Oh, and if they could somehow incorporate cam-tail tubing then that would be ace too!

Very into this.

Oh, and if they could somehow incorporate Kamm-tail tubing then that would be ace too!

ftfy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wunibald_Kamm

Although Camm knew a thing or two about airflow too
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Camm

ffs

ftfy

The F117 features those nasty looking edges, aerodynamically disastrous but the best that they could do with the state of the art stealth modelling available in the 1980s. The B2 is smoother, and manages to combine a clean aerodynamic shape with even better low-observable characteristics. Since radar cross section is an irrelevance on a bicycle, I'm wondering why Canyon copied the 'barely flies' F117

^ = shit, right?

^Nice

Meh.

Amazing to my (non-trackie) eyes.

Strange they've not used the latest pedals?

Great paintjob. Yum.

Amazing to my (non-trackie) eyes.

Strange they've not used the latest pedals?

IIRC track riders do not trust new tech – hence the reliance on straps + clips, so it might be set up for actual use