Cinelli Vigorelli 2010 (with paint stripping)

i thought you were al about carbolift?

I was until I used it!

I was really disappointed by Carbolift, it seemed to just soften the paint up and I ended up doing most of the work with razor blades and sandpaper. I had planned on doing the frame and forks but couldn't be bothered with the hassle, especially as most of the paint on the frame is white which seems to be completely unaffected by Carbolift.

The customer service was dreadful aswell. I didn't recieve any confirmation of shipping, then it took them around 3 weeks to respond to my e-mails asking where it was and another couple of weeks to get round to putting it in the post. So just under seven weeks wait for a product that doesn't work as advertised.

Now smooth out the welds with some filler and repaint it

That's a wicked cooker

That's a wicked cooker

Yeah, the brushed steel look is good on kitchen appliances. Don't paint it.

The welds are gorgeous. Very nicely done.

Seat isn't too high. I just like having testicles.

The seat rails won't bend. They wouldn't produce a seat with capabilities to destroy itself.

Wouldn't want to touch the forks with solvents. Might give them a light sandpapering one of these days.

Seat isn't too high. I just like having testicles.

don't like your wrists then?

The seat rails won't bend. They wouldn't produce a seat with capabilities to destroy itself.
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My wrists are strong enough to deal with it. I said I like riding in an aggressive position. Regularly being in an aggressive position with a horizontal saddle isn't going to help my nether regions in the slightest.

Still highly doubt any significant damage to the seat rails unless you really abused it and sat back on your seat with a lot of weight. I only slammed the saddle back to see what the feel of it was like. Moved almost all the way forward again as my knees were too far back. Should have you knee over the forward pedal axle when the cranks are parallel to the ground. Also, I found my seat in a bush so really don't care for it too much anyway!

Generally, a well fitted bicycle tend to have the saddle either horizontal, or the nose tilted up slightly.

if you find your testes get in the way with an aggressive position, then it's likely that the saddle is too high, Schar's have an aggressive saddle to bar drop but with a horizontal saddle;

Moved almost all the way forward again as my knees were too far back. Should have you knee over the forward pedal axle when the cranks are parallel to the ground.

as for this, worth reading this regarding the K.O.P.S.

Nice hotpants!

Love the matching frame and cooker

The seat rails won't bend. They wouldn't produce a seat with capabilities to destroy itself.

Jaysus, what's the point of starting your own thread if you don't listen to the good adive offered for free? I've seen two saddles fail this way, one of which was my own, through my own ignorance. Wish I'd been fortunate enough to have been tipped off about it before.

While I'm at it, you should have listened about the paint too; I think you've spoiled a smart frame there for a very faddy look. Also probably halved it's resale value, so I hope you don't grow bored of it.

PS it doesn't matter whether you found the saddle in a bush if the rails fail while you're cornering hard on a roundabout and you end up on the deck.

I believe that a raw frame is timeless when done correctly (as this has been).

^Corrosion disagrees with you

Yes yes I know aluminium forms a more-or-less inert oxide layer but I was just being a smartarse

It won't corrode when waxed, which this will be!

Fair enough. Some other forumengers have had good results using Tynan's anti-theft paste for that. What are you anyway, his mum, his bird or an alias?

All 3 :)

Right. Wait a minute...

I find it very silly that they have rails which allow you to easily break the saddle then. Nice design flaw. I don't ride the saddle like that anyway. I only had it like that for a 10 mile ride to see if it felt good - it didn't really.

The original paintwork was pretty but it's nothing special. Nothing to cry about. It still handles the same!

Last year, I've seen 16 bicycles' saddle fail that way due to the position it's mounted on.

Just because modern saddle clamp is a lots forward than the old style doesn't mean it's fine to clamp it that far back.

I think this will look quite nice if you get rid of the last of the paint, and buff the frame to a nice brushed finish- then clearcoat it to stop the passivation layer forming.

You cannot leave the fork as is, it makes the bike look half hearted- sand it to bare carbon and wax it.

You'd then have a pleasant looking alloy track frame with carbon fork- some more neutral colour choices on the kit would suit it better than the somewhat "Create" style coloured chain for example.

Then ride it and be happy.

The side issue is that this had the value it had due to the heritage (perceived/earned/makes no odds) removed with the paint- it's just a generic track frame to most people now.

But if you are going to ride it until it crumbles into dust this is a non-issue.

Pisti's Bianchi turned Langster;

That looks great.