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• #277
I'm clearly missing something here. As a straight bloke I quite like ladies. Now, I've always found that a great way to convey this is by not shouting abuse at them or trying to intimidate them. I know, it's just mental isn't it?!!!????
It's so sad to hear about how common this sort of abuse is. I know if I was in a relationship with someone who'd suffered this sort of abuse I'd be incensed.
I wonder if growing up as a young man with female siblings helps build respect? You'd hope so wouldn't you. I have a little sister and I'm terribly protective of her, it's often not conscious but literally instinctive.
+1
i would be so angry if one of those steroid taking, muscle bound, skinhead, psychotic wankers had a pop at my wife. I would certainly contemplate writing them a very stiff letter i can tell you!?!?
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• #278
The blog is great. It's so important that this ridiculous behaviour is recorded and reflected on.
@VanUden - personaly I don't think that having sisters makes a difference. I don't, and don't act like an idiot, at least in the abusive to women sense.
How many of these men do you think read the Sun or the Daily Star? A daily dose that is bound to fuck up your perception of how to behave around women. Not wanting to make excuses for them though.
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• #279
perhaps it's just me and my distance from european civilization with its attendant norms and values, but you all seem to be mighty sensitive over perceived slights, sexual or otherwise. what's wrong with a* 'who gives a fcuk what you yell?'* attitude?
sure, someone endangers your life by trying to mow you down and you have every right to get pissed. but commenting on your tits or package or clothing? c'mon. grow a pair.
the whole 'respect me' attitude in the uk sucks. respect you for what? for being who or what you are? if i think you're fat i'll call you fat. if you think me an asshole for doing so feel free to let me know. if i bothers me i'll try to change, and if it doesn't well, i guess i'm happy that way.
stress about stuff that matters. words will never kill you. 2 tons of metal at 60 kph will.
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• #280
perhaps it's just me and my distance from european civilization ....blah, blah, blah...
Or perhaps you're just a stupid cunt? I know you won't mind me saying that.
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• #281
european civilization?
where?
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• #282
perhaps it's just me and my distance from european civilization with its attendant norms and values, but you all seem to be mighty sensitive over perceived slights, sexual or otherwise. what's wrong with a* 'who gives a fcuk what you yell?'* attitude?
sure, someone endangers your life by trying to mow you down and you have every right to get pissed. but commenting on your tits or package or clothing? c'mon. grow a pair.
the whole 'respect me' attitude in the uk sucks. respect you for what? for being who or what you are? if i think you're fat i'll call you fat. if you think me an asshole for doing so feel free to let me know. if i bothers me i'll try to change, and if it doesn't well, i guess i'm happy that way.
stress about stuff that matters. words will never kill you. 2 tons of metal at 60 kph will.
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but only words can hurt me.
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• #283
perhaps it's just me and my distance from european civilization with its attendant norms and values, but you all seem to be mighty sensitive over perceived slights, sexual or otherwise. what's wrong with a* 'who gives a fcuk what you yell?'* attitude?
It's very easy for the men to says that when we don't get those kind of abuse that women get.
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• #284
ha! my ass gets plenty of comments from guys in thailand. do i sweat it? no, i just run like fcuk.
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• #285
of course not. i feel kinda hot for you too.
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• #286
errr... why aren't replies threaded? above was to markyboi. obviously.
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• #287
perhaps it's just me and my distance from european civilization with its attendant norms and values, but you all seem to be mighty sensitive over perceived slights, sexual or otherwise. what's wrong with a* 'who gives a fcuk what you yell?'* attitude?
sure, someone endangers your life by trying to mow you down and you have every right to get pissed. but commenting on your tits or package or clothing? c'mon. grow a pair.
the whole 'respect me' attitude in the uk sucks. respect you for what? for being who or what you are? if i think you're fat i'll call you fat. if you think me an asshole for doing so feel free to let me know. if i bothers me i'll try to change, and if it doesn't well, i guess i'm happy that way.
stress about stuff that matters. words will never kill you. 2 tons of metal at 60 kph will.
i've been directed here by your colleagues on glasgow forum. they don't like me one bit.
i've been thrown off two forums now - glasgow fgss and singletrack - allegedly for trolling
And you wonder why?
I've already had reported posts about you and you've been here less than 24 hours.
This is as blunt and simple as it gets: If you are just here to stir up shit, you will be banned from here too.
Your post is so dumb it's almost impossible to know where to start in trying to show you how dumb it is. I'm literally dumbstruck by how dumb it is.
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• #288
The use of the word dumb is offensive to mutes, I think velocio should be banned.
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• #289
Seconded
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• #290
the whole 'respect me' attitude in the uk sucks. Respect you for what? For being who or what you are? If i think you're fat i'll call you fat. If you think me an asshole for doing so feel free to let me know. .
wac
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• #291
^ Agreed.
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• #292
errr... why aren't replies threaded? above was to markyboi. obviously.
feel free to re-write the code and set up a competing forum.
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• #293
I am married with three daughters (18, 19, 22) my wife and youngest daughter run marathons for a hobby, the other two 1/2 marathoons, fun runs and the like. They run 4/5 times a week. Additionally my youngest is a keen cyclist, commuting with me to 6th form, and now work.
They are all constantly bombarded with comments ranging from the fairly witty to the downright insulting/abusive. It has reached the point where they are unwilling to run alone.
I have even been cycling with my youngest when she has been subject to "street harrassment".
All in all it is not clever, or funny. It can lead to people becoming frightened to follow their interests.
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• #294
Have you ever brung the fist of pain upon those street scum?
It would be pretty epic if you did.
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• #295
Whose the wanker here?
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• #296
Some depressing reactions on this thread, especially early on before people felt which direction the wind was blowing in and shifted accordingly.
If anyone doubts the extent of this sort of reprehensible crap, read the comments here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/aug/20/street-harassment#start-of-comments
Anecdotally at least, it's vastly common. And in my experience, being on a bike only increases it. Probably because one is more vulnerable on a bike, and therefore easier game; perhaps because of the unhappy confluence between anti-cyclist feeling and the misogyny documented here; perhaps because you are visibly engaged in physical activity and that seems to invite the gaze even more.
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• #297
Whose the wanker here?
Who is the wanker here? The cyclist - Not only was he riding like a dick, but he should have been able to anticipate the man stepping out and only looking in the direction of traffic flow, as it's one way road - the fact that he wasn't using the 'crosswalk' is inconsequential, as even if it had been on one the cyclist would most likely still have hit him
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• #298
Some depressing reactions on this thread, especially early on before people felt which direction the wind was blowing in and shifted accordingly.
If anyone doubts the extent of this sort of reprehensible crap, read the comments here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/aug/20/street-harassment#start-of-comments
Anecdotally at least, it's vastly common. And in my experience, being on a bike only increases it. Probably because one is more vulnerable on a bike, and therefore easier game; perhaps because of the unhappy confluence between anti-cyclist feeling and the misogyny documented here; perhaps because you are visibly engaged in physical activity and that seems to invite the gaze even more.
It makes me absolutely furious, not least because, by its very nature, it won't happen when I'm with my girlfriend but when she's on her own.
Although having said that, I was with my girlfriend in Stratford station several years ago and one young kid in a group grabbed her crotch as they went past on the steps. I didn't see it happen and my girlfriend only told me it had happened later on. I asked why she didn't say anything when it happened and she said she was just so shocked she was dumbstruck. I hate violence but in honesty I would have absolutely belted the kid if I'd known.
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• #299
Who is the wanker here? The cyclist - Not only was he riding like a dick, but he should have been able to anticipate the man stepping out and only looking in the direction of traffic flow, as it's one way road - the fact that he wasn't using the 'crosswalk' is inconsequential, as even if it had been on one the cyclist would most likely still have hit him
Yup, agreed.
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• #300
I hate violence but in honesty I would have absolutely belted the kid if I'd known.
If it were a 6' rugby player built like a brick shit house would you have belted him?
Not that I disagree with what you're saying, but it's kinda easy to turn around and belt a kid, but that perhaps isn't the right reaction.
I'm clearly missing something here. As a straight bloke I quite like ladies. Now, I've always found that a great way to convey this is by not shouting abuse at them or trying to intimidate them. I know, it's just mental isn't it?!!!????
It's so sad to hear about how common this sort of abuse is. I know if I was in a relationship with someone who'd suffered this sort of abuse I'd be incensed.
I wonder if growing up as a young man with female siblings helps build respect? You'd hope so wouldn't you. I have a little sister and I'm terribly protective of her, it's often not conscious but literally instinctive.