EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

wait.

71% of people who voted leave think the internet is a bad thing?

ARE THEY HIGH?

no, your sentence is the wrong way round.

@hippy Yeah I'm still trying to make sense of the majority of Wales voting out (same for Cornwall). Every single person I spoke to was pro Remain/Bremain but that was mostly in Cardiff which was one of the minority Remain areas.

Most of the people in Wales have no idea that the EU has provided so much funding under the Objective 1 scheme which has literally saved towns and villages helping build a more promising future for the younger population.

Unfortunately, it seems that areas of Wales that have been hit hardest by cuts have taken a simplistic viewpoint that we can "Take Our Country Back" and stop these pesky forrins (English included I suspect) coming over here feeling up our sheep.

Surprisingly - or maybe not - many farming areas were very Pro-Leave given the farming exports to the EU are around 70% for Wales. Anyway, its a massive shit storm and I've not seen so many sad faces in Cardiff for a long time.

Yeah, loads of farms up north covered in Leave signs.

Good luck trying to export your fucking sheep and associated shit to Australia fuckwits!

#footinmouthshouldbefootinarse

Tory bloke in my office reckons this was the plan all the way:

• Cameron's last negotiation round was worthless
  
• Drive for a leave win
  
• See the impact on the Eurpoean economies
  
• Back round the table
  
• "we have a mandate from the people and we will invoke article 50 unless I can go back to the UK population with a sweet offer"
  
• "look at the terms we negotiated - we'd be mad to leave"
  
• Second referendem - remain
  
• Tory's cast as economic heros
  

http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/06/how-the-united-kingdom-voted-and-why/#more-14746

This contradicts the "lefties leave" to me.

But not the "have nots" leave.

actual lol

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2016-06-24/leave-voter-disappointed-and-wishes-to-vote-remain/

Like an Onion headline. But in real life.

christ's tits, what a fucking moron. throw yourself in front of the nearest train, lady, your work here is done.

I was hoping for something like this earlier today (given that we'd got this horrible result). In this situation you can even envisage Boris being a good choice for leading, as I can't imagine he'd have the the attention span / will to get involved in any of the actual detail needed to exit so would probably prefer not to have to leave, and to dine off the 'spin' of presenting a better deal.

But then it turns out this afternoon that the Europeans want to get rid of us as soon as they can, earlier than the two year minimum if they can. Makes me feel ashamed.

Oh, I thought the EU really needed the UK!!!

Don't tell me brexit was wrong... ;)

71% of people who voted leave think the internet is a bad thing?

ARE THEY HIGH?

Not since SilkRoad shut down.....

Oh sorry, I see now, 71% of people who think the internet is bad voted leave.

That makes much more sense

Could be right.

The student said her decision was due to "the pressure of being told" by the two competing sides who she should vote for.

fucking amazing. Wonder what she studies

#Ooof

By large majorities, voters who saw multiculturalism, feminism, the Green movement, globalisation and immigration as forces for good voted to remain in the EU; those who saw them as a force for ill voted by even larger majorities to leave.

lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/06/how­-the-united-kingdom-voted-and-why/#more-­14746

He must be as stupid as BoJo then. Toys out of the pram has rarely proved a successful negotiating tactic in the history of humanity to date, I can't see it doing any better now.

I'm not sure on that. I am Dutch and apparently 7 years in NI is enough to try residency. Until about 2 years nothing changes anyway...I will keep an eye out until this has settled a bit.

I guess that once you can, she can, but not sure and the queues here for the forms are mad from what I've heard. Best to ask on Bakebook :)

Every single person I spoke to was pro Remain/Bremain but that was mostly in Cardiff which was one of the minority Remain areas.

Basically, fuck Cardiff, and fuck Welsh labour who concentrate all the power, and spend all the money, in Cardiff.

Remember Gower went Conservative in the last elections for the first time since 1906 or something. Shows how well Welsh Labour are respected outside of the capital.

ditto - some of the poverty in wales is beyond the imagination of those in Cardiff

Hackney 78.5
Lambeth 78.6

According to bbc full results list.

Have you had this yet?

https://youtu.be/DHBvDoj1k38

And the leavers have just made it worse possibly.

But the Ashcroft poll showed that leavers were more likely to be optimistic that leaving the EU won't harm the UK.

Cross checked with EU money/exports for Wales that makes no sense to me, but if people don't know...