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  • I also found this company that says it works: https://www.rodbikes.com/articles/9-10sp.html

    On some of our touring bikes and tandems we use 10 speed Campagnolo shifters with a 9 speed SRAM or Shimano cassette in the back. We're not the only high-end manufacturer that does this, but we are probably the biggest.

    So I choose to be optimistic. It's free to try since I have a 9sp stuff laying around already, worst case I buy new 8sp cassette and chain.
    I love downtubes, but I'm curious about whether this would work, and I only ever rode brifters for like 5 minutes, and those were some ratty Soras. I'll still carry a pretty friction dt in a bag for when the campy shifter fails or whatever. I'm paranoid enough.

  • It is the Hubbub alternate cable routing, if I remember correctly. Should work, never tried, without that the 0.3 difference is a bit too much I think.
    https://hubbub.bike/hubbubs-original-shimergo-solution/

    Looks great, and Shimergo on this bike feels just right. How would it go with discs, though? (I'm probably overlooking something.)

  • Oh this is sick, thanks. I have that same ultegra deraileur, but might try the deore first.

    Re discs, no idea, guess I'll find out. I thought it was the same rules as with rim calipers? Road disc calipers = short pull, so that's fine for drop levers?

  • I ran a srampagnolo (campanyolo 10sp brifters to SRAM 10speed exact actuation rd).
    It worked well enough. Jussayin'

  • They sucked with bb7s though.
    True speed moderation, not brakes. Somethingsomething cable pull or that bb7s just suck in general.
    Imo spyres are better and easier set up.

  • Thorn looks bizniz. Wellll nice.

  • That sucks, but are you sure the bb7s were road specific? Slow-but-not-stop sounds kinda like what you get when you mess up pull ratios (short levers, long calipers). I hope the bb7 work because they were cheap and I like their clunky look. Will report soon I guess.

  • Liking the thorn build, and the club tour seems a super versatile frame. Glad I’m not the only one who bike procrastinated rather than writing thesis chapters too.

  • Despite being a master of SCIENCE (jokes, architecture/architectural design) disc brakes remain difficult novelty tech.
    I am running a spyre road on my fixed with normal brake lever (i.e. not road) and that seems the best I got working disc brakes until now.
    Tried hydraulic but after several explosions of brake fluid while trying to bleed in the kitchen I gave up on that.

    So, long story short, yes, it was certainly down to user error. Bb7s do attract either love or hate though. I am in the second camp. And yes, I understand the aesthetic reasons to go for bb7s. At least they taught me that in that "science" degree..;)

  • Some more bits arrived, I pretty much have everything sans pedals to start ridig and tweaking things. Mudguards should arrive soon, I'm planning on Rinkoing this and the pink bike, so will cut the rear when the time comes.

    The weird shimergo routing works really well, it's only strugglig a touch in a gear or two, but I'll leave the tweakig for when a new chain arrives (this one is a bit stretched).


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  • I think the drivetrain looks good. I have another crankset that I considered, but the one that's on now will work better, aesthetically.

    I wanted an old xt derailleur at first, but it has a different routing and I couldn't emulate the shimergo tab hack. This one is fine tho, eats up a 36t sprocket. Might get a long cage version in the future. Don't mind the ratty ass placeholder chain. I wisely cropped out the plastic flat pedals, will get some silver m520s.


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  • One small bother I have is the front derailleur - the bottle cage bosses don't let the clamp sit lower, so the cage is a bit high. Shifts fine, but it'll only get worse if/when I switch to 44 or 42 ring.

  • Another bother is that the front shifter doesn't seem to accept the gear cable. This is it in the lowest click. The right one reveals a nice little hole for the cable, the left does not. Currently downtube shifting the front der, but wouls be nice to sort.


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  • ANOTHER bother are the avid brakes. They're just kinda.. shite? At least at the stand and spinning around the parking lot. I realise there needs to be a 'bedding' period but surely I should feel some bite before pressing the lever halfway? If I push the pads in any more I get rubbing. Should I give it a few rides to get better?

  • The BB7s? They setup correctly? Mine bite nicely and work great, stop a loaded tourer down hills etc without any worry.

    Edit, they the original pads? I use the Disco Pads and they've been excellent.


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  • I think you’ve posted this guide before, but link?

  • This is the exact method I used, and still no bite. They stop from moderate speed, but definitely very soft and only halfway through the lever. Front has original juicy pads, rear cheap clarks.
    Edit: ok I might've missed a step, I'll try again today.

  • I’ve taken mine (albeit with flat bar levers) on proper mtb trails and didn’t feel like I needed more brake. Have you bedded the pads in properly?

  • Re: thorn, I didn't get a chance to mess with the avids too much (following the tutorial above made them better, but not very good, thanks regardless) because a friend donated a pair of spyres for the bike. Stellar contribution. Also fitted some stainless steel mudguards but they're still kinda shit so I'll post pics once I sort them out proper. SJS didn't quite drill them right, and I did a number on them myself with my unsteady, impatient hand.

  • Pink guy is back on the workbench. I've put hundreds of kms in commuting on this lil guy (25 mile round trip), and it's a great bike. Combining a wald basket with carradice bags was one of the best ideas I've had in a while.


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  • To tease (tomorrow's, if I can manage) work, there are two things I wanted to address on it: height and reach of the stem, and rinkoing.

    Regarding the former, my back is still somewhat sensitive, and straining while bending is not a good idea. These old mtb frames are great, but they are pretty low to the ground, and all these technomic stems are getting really expensive. So I want to be able to tweak the fit as well as keep it high and short. Not too short though, as some level of splaying out seems to be very comfortable.

    Rinkoing is another plan. I'm going on a casual tour from north of Germany to Croatia, where I'll leave the pink bike at my parents, in anticipation of moving back around there come December. It'll be around 1600km based on early route estimates, but being of the proclivity to take it easy, I will make this bike rinko-ready so I can jump on a train whenever I feel like I'm pushing too much or am bored. I also don't have too much time on my hands, being in the middle of writing my PhD thesis.

    Taking both in consideration, I ordered a threadless thorn fork, which I hope to fit tomorrow. They come with a huge 40cm steerer, and are threadless, so I can play with fit as well as take it off quickly and hop on a train. I'll also cut the rear fender, which I still don't have a good plan for.

  • Oh damn this looks grim


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  • The pink raleigh was the autistic bike all along...

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