2021 bikes

What's your point?

These superbeiks are relatively poor value. They sell on exclusivity rather than any function.

#explainingtheobvious

They’re absolutely terrible value. The margins must be insane. Think about what goes into a £12k motorbike.

relatively poor value

So? That's true of anything high end. Materials cost and manufacturing time increase dramatically while improvements get exponentially smaller. You can't argue there's no improved function. Your £8k sportbike example is basically a £999 alu bike with Sora, but last I checked they didn't come OTP at 6kg, made of carbon and with electronic shifting, while also looking amazing and being comfortable

It's hardly hypercars or watches, ffs.

lol

yawn

What’s the situation with supply/distribution currently?

I’d planned to buy a Surly Rat Pack frame (no availability in the UK but a few still in Germany). I just missed the last one. Ok, plan B is a complete bike - the forum favourite Arkose (D3) ... and the same has happened! I refresh and the size Ms have been panic bought.

I’d planned to buy a Surly Rat Pack frame

whats your address? I think we need to stage an intervention.

Is it you @amey, buying up Future Classics and distorting markets?

Not ok.

So I know that super bikes are all the rage in 2021, and I am 100% #buyer, but all I’m really interested in is the new Emonda ALR in sunset fade. I already have a purple one, which I thought was nice, but this paint is a dream.

PS I know trek are basically the devil

PPS @miro_o I think pack rats are great.

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PS I know trek are basically the devil

Remember when the devil rode the devil, that shit was hot!

What size do you need?

@Eeyorecore

A 54cm Pack Rat frameset.

... or a M Arkose D3 complete.

my gravel bike is in same colour ! Just a diff direction of fade.

A very clean chain

yeah that was less than 3 miles from the shop where I got it :)

now has an oval purple chainring, lightbicycle wheels and SID Ultimate, genuinely lighter than mid range gravel bikes, with a shock.

Ahh there’s a bunch on close out here in the US, but the largest is a 52.

Briefly thought about bringing one over from the US but it gets silly expensive (for what it is).

Quite fancy this for next year.

Love for the 2021 TCR, no dropped seat stays, relatively decent value and a lovely colour.

When did bikes over £7k start getting specced with Ultegra and Force? Was it this year? I haven't looked at the price of top end bikes for a few years, but they seem to have taken a massive jump.

I notice that the TCR I got in August last year will cost you £500 more this year. Absolutely no difference. (Under 5k now over 5k and Ultegra Di2)

I assume they will cite parts shortage or something covidy but I imagine its actually because they can and will still sell out.

yeah it seems mad but thats the way things are at the moment, you dont even get microshift under £1k now