Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

The whole mask grabbing aspect is unexpected.
Who needs enemies if your most important transatlantic friend steals ppe your capitals police ordered?

Just saw that Austria are about to start doing random covid19 tests to try to get a better picture of true prevalence in the community. Not sure if they mean antibody or full viral test.
Interesting approach. Sounds like it could be quite useful?

A private company in Iceland has already had a go, but is limited to people volunteering to have the test done so perhaps not completely random.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/01/europe/iceland-testing-coronavirus-intl/index.html
Sweden and Norway gearing up to do random testing schemes run by health authorities.

I reckon the ExCel centre will have to be destroyed after the pandemic, no ones gonna want to have their graduation day there in the future.

It seems France is well up on this tactic

https://www.euronews.com/2020/03/06/coronavirus-french-protective-mask-manufacturer-scraps-nhs-order-to-keep-masks-in-france

Someone I know says that Rolls Royce are getting involved with this which may be quite a bump in capacity.

Would it be crazy yet to think WW3 could be a fight about face masks?

Strong feeling yes, more “fuck your people, I need to protect mine” way.

Just at a slightly larger scale than normal. Makes for a nice change.

New advice in the US -

Recommendation Regarding the Use of Cloth Face Coverings | CDC

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/cloth-face-cover.html

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/diy-cloth-face-coverings.html

There are a number of studies (7) linked in the 1st article which has prompted the advice for cloth face Coverings in the US and a simple video to make one from cloth. The studies make interesting reading and have found 6 of them online -

Transmission of 2019-nCoV Infection from an Asymptomatic Contact in Germany | NEJM
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2001468

SARS-CoV-2 Viral Load in Upper Respiratory Specimens of Infected Patients | NEJM
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2001737

Asymptomatic cases in a family cluster with SARS-CoV-2 infection - The Lancet Infectious Diseases
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30114-6/fulltext

Presumed Asymptomatic Carrier Transmission of COVID-19 | Global Health | JAMA | JAMA Network
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2762028

Asymptomatic and Presymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 Infections in Residents of a Long-Term Care Skilled Nursing Facility — King County, Washington, March 2020 | MMWR
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6913e1.htm

Substantial Undocumented Infection Facilitates the Rapid Dissemination of Novel Coronavirus (SARS-CoV2) - PubMed
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32179701/

But Trump’s already said he won’t wear one, so the guidance is pretty much useless.

If only there was a thread about masks we could put this in and discuss.

Careful, you may trigger the panic-starting of threads

Is there a succinct fact based argument online that can be used to diffuse the nutjobs spouting 5g conspiracy theories?

"You're a fucking idiot, and I'm amazed you managed to put on socks this morning."

Far worse. He was the driver of a skip lorry.

I'm not sure we know much about this virus yet.

This isn't exactly a new revelation, experts (virologists etc.) have been saying this for months.

The scary thing is how many healthcare professional friends on my Facebook are sharing these...

Get people who know what they're doing to do some research?

Has anyone else received Boris' £5.7 million letter yet?

Nope! And I'd forgotten all about it to be honest.

Should one buy non-essentials? I'm thinking clothes/shoes online for delivery. On the one hand, it keeps some cash flowing. On the other hand it puts demand on non-essential work, extra load on the postal service etc.

If I don't need to I'm not currently. In line with excercise etc. Don't want to put strain on a postie who doesn't really want to be there or whoever.

He's been pushing using scarves last few days, even went further to say they are often better than masks. So maybe he'll show up in a scarf soon.

Good work on the 3d printing @Stonehedge

There's a farm of 40 loaned printers running at Cisco in Green Park just outside Reading now.

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https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/apr/03/why-are-people-buying-boob-tubes-fashion-workers-anger-at-owners-and-consumers

Same here. Although our postie is freaking delighted to be out and about keeping busy!