Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

But can the NHS handle the extra load? Italy, especially in the north has good quality health care
and they are on the limit. I also keep reading about lots of people under 40 with lung infections there.

^This
It doesn’t seem plausible that all those countries can be at the same point.
So there will be some winners and some losers I’d imagine...

Well even the WHO doesn’t understand why we’re the only country banging on about herd immunity.

So I think it’s fair to understand why plenty of people are concerned.

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I suspect not, the graph suggested not the other day. I think the real political pressure comes at that point of failure. People won’t understand it as “better”

Maybe it's a communication error and the strategy is "thin the herd"

Fellow stay-at-home dad here and I do sympathise with your skepticism. I was trying to point out that there's a mistaken conflation between our Brexit go-it-alone attitude and our public health strategy, the latter of which is almost entirely apolitical and carefully considered, even if it does differ from our Euro counterparts.

Jesus. This thread is becoming a mix of conspiracy theories and updates on Ocado deliveries.

More geese please

The WHO has nothing to lose by telling people to do things.

What action would they like?

The social distancing measures that they have advised and the track and trace that the U.K. stopped doing as of Thursday.

“You can’t fight a virus if you don’t know where it is,” the WHO’s director general, Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, said at a briefing on Friday. “Find, isolate, test and treat every case to break the chains of Covid transmission. Every case we find and treat limits the expansion of the disease.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/13/who-urges-countries-to-track-and-trace-every-covid-19-case

I feel your pain. I bet you didn't know there were so many virologists, epidemiologists, policy wonks, and doctors masquerading as bike nerds.

It's an RT PCR test isn't it?
So it'll test for viable virus.

Just to throw some more science your way!
(No snark)
(Vit d update: I had mackerel for lunch!)

there's a mistaken conflation between our Brexit go-it-alone attitude and our public health strategy, the latter of which is almost entirely apolitical and carefully considered, even if it does differ our Euro counterparts.

I fully agree. I probably jumped to conclusions on the pool bit in your post.

Somebody told your wife to stay away from Twitter. Surely people behave themselves better on here? Over there it´s Tory eugenics, money over lives and other rubbish.

Had to buy own brand ketchup though which soured my experience.

Fuck. This shit is starting to get really serious.

Sounds like resuming the time and resources consuming action we were taking that has not stopped the spread. To me.

If the WHO want to write the cheque though they can knock themselves out.

There's something very fishy about this comment.

😂

Niece is half way through her medical training (i.e. to become a doctor), her med school is closing and all students are requested to help out doing various jobs (from admin, to driving ventilators to satellite ITUs, to helping process samples in labs).

For the last few years she's been going to China in the summer holidays to help out in MSF style clinics over there.

Fuck!i love arguments on this forum! Like a large family at Christmas.

Love you all! Mother fuckers...

I don't really get this.

I haven't seen anybody claiming to be an expert. People have opinions and are discussing them. Some will be right, some wrong. Why is this getting some of you so grumpy?

I'm waiting until WHO starts delivering my food supplies.

Pretty mad to me that the people questioning the U.K. government response, which is different than any other western country, are just met with “stop being an armchair know it all”. The WHO is not an armchair pundit.

It’s just a coincidence that this same government and its figurehead Boris Johnson, has spent the past three years promoting individualism and banging the drum of “No one tells us what to do. We do it alone.”

I have no idea how people can believe that politics just vanish in a crisis.

I'm permanently fucking sour.

Lol. Same. (See above)

People honestly think the government is advocating letting people die to reduce the burden later.

People stating things like "vitamin d will save us!"