Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

Maybe a pier reviewed study.

Get in the sea.

What is wrong with you?

What did he say? This thread is much nicer since muting Lynx

Or read the article from the independent yesterday https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/flu-cases-covid-england-phe-latest-b1805124.html

IMO the article is interesting as the speculation of why we have had such low numbers of cases of flu, and such a high up take of the flu vaccine. That is the bit I think that is interesting.

Or do Royal College of General Practitioners’ research and surveillance centre, who get their number from else where disagree with the PHE figures by quite a bit.

Lol

Nice

What the actual fuck are you on about? PHE say they detected zero positive flu cases out of 700k swabs in the last 7 weeks. RCGP state "the rate of influenza-like symptoms stood at 0.5-1.3 per 100,000 persons for December"

Not only are those two different timescales, but they are two different things. Symptoms ≠ confirmed cases, yet you are using the existence of one to suggest we should show distrust in the other.

Again, it's exactly this misinformation peddling, "wake up sheeple" bullshit that is causing the uptake in vaccines to be lower than it should be.

Back on ignore.

If it’s at all reassuring I had the Pfizer jab, felt a bit rubbish that evening and the next day (but nothing a paracetamol couldn’t sort) and fine the day after, same with my partner and same with my mother and the AZ. Anecdata I know but the sense of relief is huge.

This is my situation, the advert says interview will be next week so just waiting to hear. It’s quite common in the jobs I have applied to. Maybe it’s a Higher Ed thing when they need to pull in people from other depts for fairness etc? Not sure...

I will book a slot for as far in the future as they will let me so at least that’s a date set.

Not only are those two different timescales, but they are two different things. Symptoms ≠ confirmed cases, yet you are using the existence of one to suggest we should show distrust in the other.

There was figure given in december by PHE. But using RCGP scale, that has been tracked for a least 5 years, show there has been a significant reduction in flu/flu like symptoms is a better source of data to compare to previous years.

But what seems to be missing in this 'chat' and it is not wake up sheeple it is why has the sharp reduction in flu happened. Is it the mask, hand gel and hand washing or the social distancing that caused the drop. What happened to get the uptake of the Flu vaccine up, was it a covid thing, or one that can be repeated.

Understandable anxiety, and fingers crossed for the interview.

As @KT_Bee said I had similar. But have had similar side effects for have blood drawn every 4 days since the vaccination.

Is it the mask, hand gel and hand washing or the social distancing that caused the drop

Got to be social distancing and the closure of offices, nightclubs, bars, anywhere there's close contact. Masks / hand washing / disinfectant will have helped also.

What happened to get the uptake of the Flu vaccine up, was it a covid thing, or one that can be repeated.

Not sure of the full story but my 94 year old gran had to get the flu jab before she could get the first round of vaccine.

Yup arrived today.
Straight in the bin

Cheers.
Each day seems like one step forward, two steps backwards.

Thanks @Stonehedge,

I've been hunting around.

The centre that gave the Pfizer jab are meant to be contacting my Mother.

No name on the letter, just address?

Going back to the side effects a couple of pages back, I had the Pfizer a week ago with no issues other than a sore arm for a few days. My wife always reacts badly to the flu jab so the Dr told her to have the Oxford and she’s been fine, not even a sore arm.

Covid-19: Walk-ins invited at 'empty' vaccination hub

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-56183507

Well... they have cancelled my vaccine invite...

As per my post a while back upthread, anecdotally bad ‘reactions’ (<24 hrs flu-like symptoms) seem to be common, especially with Pfizer, happen after the first dose generally if you’ve had Covid or after the second if you haven’t, and are less prevalent in older people. It’s been suggested that this is due to your body mounting an immune response to the protein that the Pfizer vaccine makes you produce, and as older people have generally weaker immune systems the response isn’t as strong.
Regarding flu, it’s a droplet-spread respiratory virus so it follows that the restrictions that stop Covid (also a droplet-spread respiratory virus) also stop flu. It’s remarkable how flu seems to have been stopped in its tracks, but the large-scale PHE data is reflected in what’s going on on the ground - my trust haven’t had a single flu case so far this flu season, where they’d normally expect to have whole wards of flu-positive patients for a lot of the winter.

I take it that 'flu will come back pretty quickly after restrictions are relaxed?

Hopefully we’ll take a page from South Korea and wear a mask in public if we have the flu.

I doubt it will happen, but one can hope.

no chance, many people first questions on monday seemed to be’ but when will mask restrictions end?’

IANA virologist, but yes I’m sure it will as I think it’s probably the whole range of measures that have helped this rather than one in particular, and most of those will be stopped/eroded over time. Will be interested to see if the precautions in hospital that we now have to take make any difference to in-hospital flu transmission, as I can’t see them being lifted any time soon.

Join the club. It's soooooo nice.

no chance, many people first questions on monday seemed to be’ but when will mask restrictions end?’

Interestingly, many here are fine with masks in shops etc. I genuinely think they're here to stay; not 100% of the population but enough that people don't find it odd.