General Election 2019

There's a serious lack of enforcement on exploitative companies, one in Northern Ireland was fined many times.

With tough legal immigration, low unemployment this is probably where we’re heading under Boris.

Access to a vulnerable, voiceless, migrant underclass without rights or basic state benefits has got to be a capitalist’s dream.

It also solves my the political ‘immigration problem’ for them. They don’t appear on any official immigration figures.

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the electoral wasteland confronting the avowed centrist parties in this election suggests that wasn’t where Labour’s lost vote went.

Lib Dems increased their total votes by 60% and gained 1.3m votes. They also increased their share of the vote in many traditional labour seat tories gained from labour. It didn't translate to success in fptp, but Lib Dem increased vote was a factor in outcomes nationwide. Can't help but think that LRB analysis is ignoring the data.

Lib Dems increased their total votes by 60% and gained 1.3m votes. They also increased their share of the vote in every traditional labour seat tories gained from labour. It didn't translate to success in fptp, but Lib Dem increased vote was a factor in outcomes nationwide. Can't help but think that LRB analysis is ignoring the data.

Only 10,000,000 more votes to go.

If would never happen, but the logical position would be a merger of Labour and the Lib Dems. The synergies to both parties would far outweigh the downsides.

Jo Swinson said they’d increased their vote share by 4.2% according to the BBC.

Edit - share of vote by 4.2%. total votes cast by 60% - 2.3m to 3.7m

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All of these issues were discussed in the media pretty broadly, so people knew who they were voting for. If a large part of voters wanted brexit he was their only option. I believe the personal rating polls suggested he is unpopular with voters, just Corbyn is even less popular.

You can come with a similar long list of issues for Corbyn.

Most surprising for me is the lack of self awareness from the left, who do not see their policies as left and cannot come up with a better response then blaming voters and media.

Obviously the votes gained were useless to the Lib Dems, but they could have been incredibly useful to Labour if they hadn't driven them away.

Has anyone seen any analysis of where the LD’s votes came from? Interested in how many votes they took from the Tories and how many from Labour.

I've voted Labour all my life, but the type of manifesto put forward this election has never and will never command an electoral majority in this country. I know the momentum talking points are to blame everything but the manifesto, but that is the way to perpetual ruin.

Too true.

I found the lack of solidarity from Labour (not the NI socialists / Greens) unpleasant. Talking about how sad it what is happening to EU immigrants is while wanting restrictions, cough... Realpolitik at its finest.

Still many other aspects of Labour immigration policy are a huge improvement so I'd still have been happy with a win for them.

Fom always came with a basic set of rights and no income rules, simply we had too many rights for the neolib bosses / racist groups who made great bedfellows here

Even with a visa you are now tied to your employer and some people get exploited because you have no employer that sponsors the other one? Can't change job, too bad.

So now what, I really don't know. Usual civic society volunteering / donating I guess.

personal rating polls suggested he is unpopular with voters, just Corbyn is even less popular.

Anecdata, but a correspondent I listen to in the run up said they'd never come across as many people with negative attitudes to both candidates in any previous election.

^^^^^ I'm sorry but that's cobblers. If you cannot see how sections of the press downplay or ignore Johnson's many failings and never shut up about Corbyn's then...
It's about what is not reported as much as what is reported and how it is reported. The 'I won't say how many children I have' on its own would have sunk Corbyn - not to mention that the Sun et al would have no scruples about finding out how many and putting it on the front page day after day, along with suitable derogatory nicknames. If it doesn't work, why do they bother?

I would love to see a detailed analysis.

I used to think that the right wing media bias thing was exaggerated to paper over Corbyn's failings but in this election it became patently obvious that it was (and is) a thing.

That doesn't excuse the fact that he didn't perform when needed though. Look at the televised debate between him and Johnson, there was no bias there, it was all very fair. But Johnson performed dreadfully and Corbyn totally failed to capitalise on it. There were so many open goals he failed to take advantage of. He was just wet and strangely supine, so different from when he was pissed off with Johnson in PMQs. There was no fire.

@hesa I'm not sure how much of a problem the left wing policies actually were. If you look at the results of the opinion poll I posted policies weren't the problem.

I'd agree about Corbyn's performances, he was lacklustre. John McDonald was much better. He reminded me of Ed Miliband trying to be all Blair like and po-faced; after he stepped down he turned out to be a very funny and acerbic character but trying to appease the lunatic press had hidden all that.

This year's Labour manifesto was actually longer than 1983's "longest suicide note in history" but I don't think the manifesto was the suicide note, it was Corbyn then Brexit (in that order).

Apologies for extension of an already tenuous analogy.

sections of the press downplay or ignore Johnson's many failings and never shut up about Corbyn's then...

For 'sections' read most of, given the left has the Mirror, the Indy, the Guardian and, er..?

Thinking about the tabloids, I think about the royal family. I'm quite sure that if they turned against them we would be a republic in 10 years or less.

I'm with Will on the press. You're mad if you don't think the last 40 years of right wing dicks hasn't affected people.

For 'sections' read most of, given the left has the Mirror, the Indy, the Guardian and, er..?

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Channel 4 stepped up this year.