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Here's a recent example in London in which a driver appears to have driven at another driver, who had got out of his car because of a disagreement, and then ended up on the bonnet:
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Thanks to @Fox for posting this in the news thread:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-48978808
Gangs using cars as weapons seems to increasingly be a thing. There was one down the road from us the other week which was accompanied by an acid attack:
I can find this:
Was this it? No mention of an attack with a car in the article, though.
It's really depressing to see acid attacks happening again. I don't know if they ever went away, but there seemed to be fewer for a while.
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Was this it?
Yep that's the one, my friend lives on Downs Road and saw it. I seem to remember it being a Friday night not that long ago and I remember her saying about the men who were attacked taking their clothes off. I think the attackers may have tried to hit a group of people with a car and failed just before, which may be why it's not mentioned in the article.
Or the Gazette got the details from the police and they just mentioned the acid attack - the article seems to be based on a police call for witnesses and the Gazette didn't speak to anyone at the scene.
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Another case in Battersea yesterday:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jul/14/attempted-arrests-after-car-hits-group-in-londonThree people were arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after a car was driven into a group of people in south-west London, police said.
Police also arrested four people for affray after being called at 11.15pm on Saturday to reports of a fight following the incident at Lombard Road, Battersea, which saw a man suffer a broken leg. He was treated at the scene then taken to hospital.
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Thanks, that's the same one as in the BBC link I re-posted above.
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Here's a case in which the charge is murder:
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A police officer was run over with his police car in Birmingham:
The perpetrator has been charged with attempted murder, among other things.
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see this is scary shit, and is never more than a nutjob away from any of us, and theres a bunch of nutjobs out there
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Horrible. Fingers crossed for her, although the prognosis sounds very bad. :(
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Sad to see more cases like this. Posted by @HousecatHST in the non-cycling crashes thread:
It now been confirmed that the office was hit be a car (BMW, by the looks of it) 10 people arrested on suspicion of murder.
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I just found this while searching for something else--from June this year in NYC:
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This one is local, ish to me. No national coverage just a short story in the local paper.
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I'm not sure if the original crash is mentioned here, but I haven't found it.
Maybe she didn't intend to knock him off, but she definitely intended to punish him for not using the cycle lane. Moves into Right turn filter lane to get alongside and doesn't turn right
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It's been posted somewhere else but has obviously been doing the rounds.
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This sounds as if it was deliberate.
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Not quite the level of weaponry this thread usually references...
Got clear cctv of a wvm driving into me (and onto the pavement nearly hitting 2 pedestrians) today. Also got a sore ankle. Reckon they could have him on highway code 145 and 163 so popo report has gone in.
All because he couldn't wait 5 seconds whilst I rode passed some parked cars in his lane.
Builder type. I hope he lost his favourite tape measure today, as I found one in the same area on my ride home. #karma
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Damn, sorry that’s happened to you but glad you’re otherwise ok and able to (hopefully) prosecute.
If I can offer unsolicited advice, nigh on request: don’t let the cunt off the hook. Police are usually shit at prosecuting when cyclists are the victims, and if it happens that will take some energy to push against. The driver might make an impassioned plea and swear to reform; which is worth as much as this space right here ->[ ].
Take care of yourself first of all, but if someone starts tugging at your heartstrings think of those of us whose lives and limbs haven’t mattered to other cunts like that until they’re in front of a judge.
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Also, public service announcement PSA:
The Police can put up signs asking for witnesses and information at the scenes of “traffic incidents”. If you’re the victim of a crime and don’t have an immediate witness but there were cars or people around, don’t let the police fuck you around saying there’s nothing they can do. It’s bullshit. They routinely ask for information via these signs, and routinely pretend that there’s fuck all to be done about whatever crime you were a victim of.
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Sorry to hear that. You know this, but it is usually worth saying again for those who don't know: The Highway Code is only a compilation of traffic regulations and recommendations, so what he could be prosecuted under are not the HC rule numbers, but the relevant legislation that may have informed them.
Hope the police take action. With good quality of evidence, that is likely.
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I think you'll find that where there is easily accessible evidence, the police often do follow it up. Also, here it's not just about one cyclist, but, from rhb's account, at least three people who were threatened, even if he was the only one hit, and it seems only lightly (which doesn't change what may have been the driver's evident intention).
The real problem is where there's no evidence. It's there that people are left alone far too often, especially if the injury is only slight. However, a driver who mounts the footway in his van to exact some kind of 'revenge' is often dealt with appropriately. There have been several cases where such drivers have been convicted of murder or other offences attracting long prison sentences. Fortunately, rhb's case is much less serious, but the available evidence may prove decisive.
This is not to deny your general point that the number of cases with completely inadequate follow-up is legion. I personally think CCTV has made this situation worse, not better.
Do please update us on what happens, rhb.
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Thanks both. I'll update if I hear owt back in the next 21 days. This doesn't bode well though... https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/inside-greater-manchester-polices-culture-21522116.amp
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it is usually worth saying again for those who don't know: The Highway Code is only a compilation of traffic regulations and recommendations, so what he could be prosecuted under are not the HC rule numbers, but the relevant legislation that may have informed them
Yes a valid point. I referenced the HC in my report which is why I mentioned here but appreciate it's the laws themselves that are the key bits.
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Using a motor vehicle as a weapon
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@Oliver Schick
I thought we had a thread about this somewhere, but couldn't find one.
Obviously, this thread isn't about 'ordinary' collisions in which drivers are inattentive in causing harm, but about cases in which, whether because of momentary anger or deliberately and with forethought, drivers hit people, whether these are themselves in a motor vehicle or whether they walk or cycle. Needless to say, victims that fall into the latter two categories are most at risk, but people sometimes try to attack other drivers with their car, too.
It also includes terrorism, sadly very prominent recently with the attacks at Westminster Bridge and London Bridge, or indeed in Nice and Berlin.
It must be said about all such attacks that they are fortunately very rare.
There is a variety of outcomes, ranging from (rare) murder sentences being handed down to drivers receiving light penalties.
Murder:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/driver-gets-life-term-for-cyclist-murder-1967407.html
A case in Australia in which the perpetrator used a motorcycle:
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/cyclist-hater-ben-smith-jailed-for-more-than-five-years-over-death-of-steve-jarvie/news-story/fd2deac1513db13c849818eb7e5cf25f?nk=e77750d83c30cd221deef07d9d764dda-1557394111
Attempted murder:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-47776383
Arguably, this is a case of using a car as a weapon, too:
https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/cyclist-thrown-through-windscreen-taking-2116579
As is this:
https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/ralph-keemer-chertsey-crash-cyclist-16174421
This was a terrible attack in Victorian Grove in Stoke Newington:
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/shocking-moment-woman-uses-car-like-a-weapon-against-cyclist-in-stoke-newington-road-rage-revenge-a3535346.html
Fortunately, she was caught and convicted. Her sentence was three years in prison.
A terrible (what appears to be) murder a few days ago in Leytonstone:
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/driver-mows-down-and-kills-man-52-in-high-speed-hitandrun-after-fight-in-chicken-shop-a4135861.html
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/leytonstone-murder-investigation-launched-after-man-52-dies-after-being-hit-by-car-a4134896.html
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/father-rammed-to-death-by-car-in-leytonstone-had-come-to-london-to-support-family-a4136856.html
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https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/203272/
https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/339764/