Using a motor vehicle as a weapon

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  • This seems to be an instance, although a bizarre incident all round:

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/motorcyclist-rammed-driver-redbridge-met-police-appeal-b955618.html

    Not sure how the police can tell that the driving changed from 'erratic' to deliberately hitting the motorcycle rider, but they must have reasons. Healing wishes to the rider.

  • Glad to see in the first sentence that it was a driver wot dun it. Maybe the wording of these types of articles is improving. Or perhaps it's only cyclists that get hit by cars without drivers.

  • Just got knocked off by a moped rider after an altercation. He almost got me the first time, he was parked, I passed and just as I did so he decided to pull away into a u turn, no indication and phone in left hand. I shouted and swerved and had a bit of a coming together but he got really aggressive so I rode off. 400yards later felt a smack from behind and went skittering down the road. Lost a bit of skin, really hurt my shoulder but don’t think it’s broken, tore a newish soft shell jacket. Bike’s ok though.
    Police (Thames Valley) spectacularly uninterested.
    Just told me to report it online.
    Go pro in pocket. SMH.

  • That's assault occasioning actual bodily harm. Press the police, don't just report it online and let it float into the void for nothing to happen. Gather any information you can yourself now as you may end up having to spoon feed the bizzies. Assuming it was a delivery rider, were they collecting from somewhere? See if the restaurant has CCTV. See if the street has CCTV. etc etc

  • Fuck Adrian

    Report it and heal up fast

  • Thanks.
    I made a phone report despite them advising me not to. Waiting for a reference number which hasn’t appeared yet.
    I checked the area for cameras but couldn’t see any. He wasn’t obviously a delivery rider but there’s a lot of youngsters moving stuff around on behalf of dealers. I suspect he was making an illicit drop when he pulled the u turn.

  • I assume you've written down as much as you can remember?

    Is there much of a likelihood you might come across him again?

    Glad you weren't hurt worse, and without witnesses any chances of a prosecution are obviously slim, but it would be good if against hope he was caught.

    Hope your shoulder's not too bad.

  • Damn. I got hit by a car with cloned plates a year or two ago now. It's shit but sometimes there's not a lot you can do.
    Hopefully the police do come through

  • Just got an email from the police. The call handler simply filled out the online form. Not even a crime. Simply a traffic collision.

  • Jesus that’s depressing. I’ve had a very similar experience with the police on this type of thing and unfortunately (having exhausted all the avenues) something I just had to make peace with and not let it keep me up at night in a rage. Really sorry to hear this and hope you’re on the mend.

  • Wonder if it'd be the same charge/result for bike cops in the same situation

  • Is there no 'Safer Neighbourhood Team' for your area?
    They normally have representation from local councillors and residents' associations to ensure victims, (of any sort), are not fobbed off as you have been.

  • Two months on from the “incident” where I was kicked off my bike and still no contact from the police.
    After waiting a month I made a formal complaint, and two days later got a letter from the investigating officer to tell me that after a proportionate investigation they would be taking no further action.
    This investigation didn’t include interviewing me. The complaint crossed over to them sending out the letter so I waited for the complaint to start its process. Last week I got a call from the professional standards department who are looking into it. The conversation didn’t start very well when she started to discuss my “accident”. I stopped her and pointed out that this was no accident and she should use the appropriate language. That didn’t go down too well, but it didn’t seem like the professional standard bar is set very high.
    Another week has gone by, it’s now been 2 months.
    Fortunately my wounds have healed. I still have some niggles with my shoulder and elbow and some scars, but I get more angry every day with Thames Valley police. I haven’t fixed my bike as it’s evidence that the police haven’t looked at (and it’s so distinctive I fear the rider seeing it again and having another pop)
    Bastards.

  • Awful (also shared in the news thread)

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59369492

  • While this does belong here, the reporting makes me question whether the driver's intention was to attack the parade. More details are clearly needed to establish a motive, but it is also possible that the driver panicked while fleeing. None of this is to excuse what they did in any way, it's still murder by using a car, just that right now it's not clear whether they really intended to hit people there.

  • whether the driver's intention was to attack the parade.

    Yeah, the driver didn't leave the house intent on attacking the parade.

    When they saw the crowd was "in their way" they made a decision to continue to drive through it though. Presumably to try and disperse it and make good their escape?

    As always, the driver was a weapon.

  • The anti-cycling nutnuts will probably make a martyr of him.

  • I can hear the spin now... "Pensioner jailed after cyclist threatens him; wife left terrified in front seat of car."

    What a cunt. Should be attempted murder.

  • fuck! two lives ruined over a wing mirror...

  • The article says the cyclist subsequently lost his job and even unable to tie his shoe laces.
    This has me fuming.

  • I missed this completely at the time:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkmarsen_ramming_attack

    Miraculously, no-one was killed, unlike in the incident in Trier ten months later.

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