The Mamnick Thread

He's a modern day Peter Stringfellow who speaks for the working class

It's ironic though that this supposed working class nationalist lad is selling £165 shirts made in Japan and £40 snotrags...

A real man of the people #bestofbritish.

i went to School with the boy on the left!! He shat himself in Primary 4 poor bastard.... still sounds better bloke than Thom...

#gentrification

I'm genuinely interested in your answer.

Just not enough to provide any of your own.

Surely you've got better things you could be doing than this? I just read the whole thread (because I don't have better things to do) and you should stop digging. You're not under threat from any of the people here and if things start percolating out into the real world, you'll know who to blame...yourself.

I said earlier in the thread that people who abuse Muslims physically and verbally should pay for their actions. I've been clear on this. Horrendous.

You're ignoring the point of the article I cited which is that your politics is creating a climate whereby these people are emboldened to assault Muslims (primarily women, reflecting on the cowardice involved) and caveating your views with a disclaimer that you don't endorse violence doesn't change the fact that they are inciting it. Cause/effect, you are the company you keep...

What is your solution?

My solution is to let Muslim women say what they find acceptable, and for the UK to stop electing political parties that enable extreme political forces abroad as a matter of economic convenience, whether it is Thatcher supporting Pinochet whilst branding Mandela a terrorist, or her son trying to topple African governments for personal gain.

Mine is to open up the dialogue, spread the ideas and critique of the doctrine that lead to the subjection of women and gays. Help spread the ideas of people like Sarah Haider, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Raheel Raza.

Your solution is to 'open up dialogue'? All you've done is mindlessly parrot a few people who are critical of Islam whilst calling people who disagree with you 'squids'-I can see no replies to any responses where you've been challenged about your explicit sexist, Anti Semitic actions? I think most of the people you quote would be embarrassed to be associated with you.

What is your solution then?

My solution is for you to recognise your own primary motivator is not noble, it's a twisted process of self-justification of prejudice that ignores the hypocrisy of attacking Islam for things like oppressing women but fails to recognise those women in the UK that are victims of violence and structural inequalities at the hands of the indigenous white population. If you're not equally outraged about this, it stands that your primary motivation is simply a dislike of Muslims.

So far you have obfuscated the critique by using the words 'islamophobe', 'racist' or suggested I'm a bigot / Tommy Robinson supporter or changed the subject to 'what about Christianity' ?

Your own twitter shows support for Tommy Robinson, whilst trying to mis-represent Nazis as Socialists. I've not used the term Islamaphobe, or racist, and I don't need to because it's readily transparent that you are, as well as an anti-semite.

I'm genuinely interested in your answer.

There you go.

Your chance to make a difference and open out the dialogue is here and now and you have the social media platforms and a brand to do just that. So, instead of all this huff and bluster on here why not turn your attention and energy into something really positive. Promote these ideas, get your customers on board and make them aware of your feelings about this subject. Like I said, make the t-shirts and hats and pins and really do something proactive for a noble cause. Yes?

Edit: Mamnick also sponsor Cycling Sheffield Team and the Rutland CC Hill Climb event. This surely is another arena to exploit?

Is it just me or is Thom pretty obsessed with Islam?

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I guarantee he'll nick that design.

I assume that this is an homage and you'll be selling them for profit yes? Where can I buy?

It's a bootleg. DM's only.

Actually would buy. Worth considering a list payment up front and profits go to a suitable charity?

I think he's been bullied. whatever his political views are the mob-delivered vitriol against him / his brand over the last few pages is pretty unattractive.

So as a professional designer you're saying you can't differentiate between reproducing a design with the permission of the owner and sharing profit with them, or simply wholesale copying it, adding your logo, not giving credit, acknowledging the source or paying them something?

I'd say most people can see a clear difference between these two situations and are fair minded enough to say that the latter is not ok....

Your pal took it to the printers and they were sold, he made some money, he may have even given Matt (Butterworths) a couple of quid too.

So you've been giving the people whose intellectual property you've been skimming a couple of quid on all of the "designs" you're making which are "inspired" by their content?

All made in England supporting local business's. Only sell them at £30 (not bad for a made in England t.shirt in limited numbers I think). There is little profit in it but it's more work for the small factories I like to work with.

Such as the small "local" factories in Japan that are scraping a living on £165 shirts?

Also just wondering seeing as you're taking this good guy stance and portraying yourself as a woebegotten creative who isn't making any money from all of these ripoffs, how do you actually go about affording a custom Field bike and all of the other trappings of luxury synonymous with life up North?

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No sympathy for bigots, bullies or thieves.

Triggered.

Was this agreement struck before or after slapping their design and photography all over your social media? Don't remember seeing any kind of announced collaboration then? Or any replies to the people who pulled you up on it indicating that this was the case?

You made it personal days ago and you’ve got what you deserve.

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Bullying like circulation of a meme comparing a black female MP to a horses arse?

Or bullying like using a pic of your gf's ex as your Twitter pic and changing your handle used for your contentious retweets to his name?

If anyone has a bit of free time maybe it's time to send some messages to his "collaborators" and let them know they're associating with a racist dimwit and that you/I/others in the thread won't be buying anything tainted by his hand.

Maybe some nice public tweets with a link to the thread and some screenshots :)

Freedom of speech not freedom from consequences