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  • #26aintdead?

    Raaw built the bike for Free Ride Fiesta, so it might be!

  • Hmm yes looks like 27,5

  • Slightly disappointed* to learn that e thirteen don't do those tyres in 26".

    *Doesn't really matter to me, as I'm now on the 29" skill compensator wagon.

  • Extra strong wheels to be fully prepared for this years Rampage 😎

  • Not sure what that crap under the toptube is but the bike looks nice (and the wheels are 29")


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  • Some kind of shock and suspension sensors it looks like. The bike does look proper!

  • Yeah, suspension (and maybe brake) telemetry would be my guess- that’s a proper development mule.

    I do think they look very good.

  • Raaw released their DH bike today.

  • When's yours arriving?

  • I have been looking at Ohlins DH forks and golly- I didn’t realise you had to buy the fork crown separately for £! on top of £! for the fork.

  • =£!!!!!

  • Interesting that Dan Roberts, previously at Scott, has done a lot of work on the Raaw Yalla and Neko Mulally's Frameworks DH bike - there's been something of a visual similarity between the two but also some clear differences.

  • It's going to be around £5,500 for frame and fork, doing some Googling. I think, much as I'd love this, it may have to wait.

  • No surprise then that it's very close to a Gambler but just a cm or so longer (comparing Yalla M and Gambler L).

  • The similarities to the Gambler had never occurred to me until now.
    Fun fact - the chap who designed the Gambler obvs uses one as his dh bike but interestingly rides a Privateer 161 as his other bike rather than a Scott Ransom. csb.

    I dare say it, three grand seems an awful lot for an alloy frame. The same money gets a complete alu Gambler dh bike. The downside is that it doesn't say Raaw on it.

  • It's going to be around £5,500 for frame and fork

    Guessing they aren’t expecting to sell too many of those

  • I know you're keen on one, and I know I've already said it, but those geometry numbers have reinforced my thinking that DH bikes are a bit less relevant these days. Aside from 20mm of extra travel front and rear, it's a slightly more conservative version of my Geometron.

    It does look prettier though, I'll concede that.

  • I’ve not totted it up but it would be a nine to ten grand bike fully built I think

  • About the same as mid-level Santa Cruz then

  • For what would be a world championship level race bike, yes- puts it into context.

  • nine to ten grand bike

    3.5-4.5k on wheels and groupset?!
    Interesting that the Yalla has a two year warranty versus five years for the Madonna and Jibb.

    Are you dead set on the Yalla? Considering any other dh frameset?

  • Not dead set on anything tbh. Like the idea of the Yalla but it’s definitely money.

    Complete groupset, wheels, finishing kit- uuu don’t think 3.5-4?

    I imagine wheels would be easily over 2K with tyres and so on. I don’t know how much a DH groupset is mind.

  • I suppose if you went with Reserve rims the wheels would be close to 2k thinking about it.
    Alloy wheelset and inserts would be about a quarter of that.

    Just mad money for a bike that’s used a couple weeks in the alps and a few uk uplifts each year!
    Having said that, I still think you should go for it. But I’d have a look at other frame sets too, quite a few interesting frames recently released and a few more on the horizon.

  • A DH bike really is the definition of the bike you buy second hand in terms of purchase price, but - I can't help thinking that a second hand DH bike would be absolutely flogged.

  • I reckon many are minced about on and they are designed to take a beating anyway.

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