The Klein CAAD12

Fixeh fisticuffs in Putney tonight!

FWIW I set up my CAAD10 disc with cable pull Shimano CX77 and Ultegra first time round and spent a week on it in the lakes absolutely smashing the shit out of 30% descents.

Never ever had a problem with cable pull, the routing is exactly the same on the CAAD12.

I upgraded the CAAD10 to CX1 Hydro and for the £££££ spent doing that was only really enamoured by the shifting and novelty of 1X.

The last disc build I did was a Trek Crockett with Ultegra Di2 and the cable pull CX77's again and they never let me down.

I actually kind of prefer their ease of adjustment, and very simple to set up nature.

Hydro scares me.

Spaghetti wrestling every Wednesday obvs

Hydro scares me.

This

I still read regular stories of "the best" hydro brakes leaking/breaking/blowing/generally fucking up.

A cable is a cable. You know it's either gonna pull or it's not.

Plus why are road Hydro groups so fucking expensive and so fucking ugly?

I'm in the throes of planning a new build and quite similarly considering going for cable pull discs again....

Remember reading something about the national American gravel race champion still using Spyre's with SRAM eTap....

it really depends on the frame, nothing to do with braking power as @Howard pointed out. If you want equal joy and experience of your R9100 brakes stay true to the medium. With discs although, heavy ugly and expensive its sadly hydro. Or just dont get a disc brake bike. There are plenty more braking options that I am willing to discuss at an hourly rate plus VAT.

Trek has done a great job on the new Crockett btw. I have spyres on that and they are at par with hydros but again massively frame dependant.

Yea cable pulls on my old Talbot are tres bon, same on the Kinesis. On the airnimal they were fantastic despite miles of outer.

They all use external routing. But whatevs.

To support what @amey is saying, I think cable pull brakes are great. Got them on my Surly Disc Trucker. Prefer the BB7 over the HY/RD in fact.

Only issue is with the CAAD12 the internal routing makes it an absolute pig of a job, particularly if you have a large spindle crankset.

If you're not using that bb cable adapter thing, can I grab it off you please?

4 pages and only brake chat?! You know what this reminds me of ..?

Yep. Will send you PM

large spindle crankset.

I was initially only considering Red22 or exogram cranks in bb30 for this but for the reason you've pointed out here, I could look at GXP instead, I even have a spare 2012 red crank though not strictly 11 speed, it'll work.
For consideration, what BB will take BB30 down to GXP? Rotor with a NDS adapter?
I don't want a permanent adapter to BSA

I'm amazed you're joking about it. You've upset a lot of people.
Go fit your crown race and enjoy your fold up sora bike

GXP in a BB30?!

This thread is getting 'JB Panasonic' good

Did you use a vacuum to fit your crown race @amey

Henry has been through enough in that house

just vacuum? could work ..

Don't you have another CAAD project on the go? Can I suggest the possibility that having one nicely specced CAAD (with hydro disc brakes), might be superior to having two that don't meet your expectations?

I don't wanna but needs sometimes must.
Stop trolling me

remember that this frameset has a weird assymetric bottom bracket. Canondale's BB30A standard.

Will need some adapters I think.

I've got a CAAD 7 Saeco. That one has Sram Red 10 speed, this one has Sram red 11 speed. Pretty nicely specced I'd say. I'm not going Hydro until I've tried and failed for myself with cables.
If it works, I expect apologies from the lot of you. If it doesn't I expect a lot of "told you so"s.

Lol this is a money pit

For consideration, what BB will take BB30 down to GXP?

Praxis

GXP in a BB30?!

But yes it's wrong