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• #277
those described above and the liberal intellectual, political theoretical, London based lefties.
I know people always say this. But by enlarge how many of these liberal urbanites views / interests are actually represented by Labour?
I can't help but feel many have historically tactically voted Labour because they didn't view the Lib Dems as a going concern.
Bar their authoritarianism and pension raiding, New Labour were basically Liberal Democrats.
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• #278
They can't.
The longer they live in denial the worse it's going to get.
But they should shut up about immigration controls: There already are controls. That sort of low grade bullcrap is the Tories domain. They keep it in and every time immigration is mentioned with the word "problem/challenges" they re-inforce that link in people's brains. I expect better, as if you can't win an election anyway, then at least truly keep the high ground.
And if it's true most Labour members are remain they risk destroying the party right now. Perhaps that's the best that can happen, but it leaves the UK with a tiny opposition.
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• #279
Now it's more "well if we don't like the deal we will veto it".
Really clear messaging right there ;)
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• #280
LOL. Going head-to-head with Trump on that one.
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• #281
Haha shots fired :):):)
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• #282
Slightly more lightheartedly...
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• #283
:)
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• #284
Amazing :)
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• #285
Dj Shadow should remix The Gloaming again, Theresa's Tourism Edit
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• #286
I was one of Andrew Tyrie's consitituents at the time of Brexit. I wrote a letter to him, going on about how dissapointed I was, how I held his party to blame, etc etc. He wrote back in what sounded like an equally disappointed tone, explaining how he would now be pressuring his party to make it known how they intended to proceed with the whole mess, and the options that should be immediately taken off the table. He's probably sent me about 3 letters since with updates... Good MP, shame about the rest of his party.
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• #287
Thanks for that.
I can only imaginw that Tyrie showed up on the Tory benches at the House of Commons expecting to meet truly bright people, who like him had reached the peak of their profession and decided it was time to do some public service.
Instead he found himself surrounded by kippybrexitters and poltical thugs,
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• #289
Green party leader got a grilling on r4 this morning, about whether using corporation tax to pay for education was the "right" thing to do.
Then Jeremy Cunt comes on and gets away unchallenged with the claim the Tory gov has treated people with disabilities "with care and respect".
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• #290
Hearing Nick Robinson interview Jeremy Hunt is a reminder that Cornyn isn't so wrong about his 'establishment claims, however student-politics they sound.
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• #291
Re voting Labour or Lib Dem - if you live in a marginal, and are opposed to the Tories, surely you vote for the party that stands the best chance of defeating the Tories in that seat ?
Something the Tories are good at is assimilating other parties so as not to split their vote (UKIP).
If you're opposed to the Tories you've got Labour, Lib Dem, SNP, Plaid, Greens (and yes, UKIP) to split the vote. In a FPTP system I can't see anyone challenging the Tories for a long time unless progressive alliances are made. This is even without the boundary changes that are supposed to favour the Tories that will come into place for the election after this. -
• #292
you mean this nick robinson? employee of the bbc?
https://twitter.com/bbcnickrobinson/status/855004519297679361
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• #293
The theoretically simple way of squaring the circle is getting through the thick skulls of 20-40% of those people who both vote tory and would be better off under labour (ie most tory voters)
This is so true, what it all about? aspirational voting. A bit like buying yourself a Dogma, which you can't afford but one day you might be a pro and be able to make use of it.
One day I might be a millionaire so I better vote Tory, just in case.
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• #294
Thanks for sharing the story. Good MPs stand out regardless of their individual political affiliation. It's just a shame that there seem to be so few that fall into that category.
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• #296
Is it a bug or a feature... ;)
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• #297
I'm going to have to do a postal vote. :S
@Velocio needs to work on the SEO for this...
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• #298
Yes that Nick Robinson, the one who was president of the Oxford University Conservative Association.
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• #299
So no bias at all then.
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• #300
But he pisses off the centre/left and Ukip. So that scientifically proves that he's right on the money.
Brighter minds than you or I haven't solved that conundrum yet, Matt. Jeremy Corbyn isn't the answer, I know that much.