Seven Axiom SLX, 4-season and all-road

No accident and handlebars troll obvs ;-)

Bigger chainring would look better? And with the saddle I was wondering a bit slammed forward is that the correct position?

I haven't collected the bike yet... will pick it up on Monday.

At that point they'll dial in the position more precisely, put it on rollers, and adjust the saddle and bars accordingly.

So what we need is a pizza rack for the back? Then most front bags can be used both ends.

The Carradice C rack top bag isn't bad, nor is the Ortlied rack top bags (limited by not being able to be used without panniers).

But perhaps a more modern version of those in a very thin, light, but durable (rip-proof) fabric. Not looking for any weather proofness as I imagine packing dry bags as standard.

I imagine a rack top back that compresses height wise (to the extreme of being a flat piece of fabric and a couple of straps when empty), and that it would fit 2 standard size dry bags lying on top of each other.

The compression would provide a lot of the stability so it doesn't swing around like a saddle bag can. When filled with 1 dry bag compression would be enough, when filled with 2 the extra height affords a touch more space behind the seat cluster, so I like the idea of a nose to the bag that can be pulled across that space and that also provides a little aero shape and a little more stability if I've been a lazy packer.

All of this means that the bag would be flat, stable, and not too high. Which frees the underside of the saddle and part of the seat post for lighting, cameras, tool bag, etc.

This is just an idea... I haven't really thought about exact details, but I knew that if I wanted to commission such a bag for a rack, that the bike needed the mounts for racks.

Besides, a bike with rack mounts and mudguard mounts is a bike for life. I was frustrated at times that I couldn't use the Serotta for some of the riding I did, it was a fabulous bike but didn't adapt to how I wanted to use it.

You'd have been one of those weirdos who commission Rob English to make bikes.

You are dead right about the lack of a 'modern and not too high' trunk/rack top bag. I'm after something small and light that would fit a Tubus Airy without being too box-like or wobbly (the rack is very narrow).

Closest I could find was this, but it's still too wide for my needs...

https://www.arkel-od.com/en/tailrider-bicycle-rack-bag.html

I quite like the look of the Revelate Nano Panniers too but would prefer to use the top of the rack as it's a significant 'mudguard' benefit when it's so close to the wheel (no space for an actual guard).

No. Not any longer.

Been down the fully bespoke machines, and prefer bespoke within the parameters of standard parts and consumables.

Hence the rack. Any bag would work... standard stuff is fine way into the future. But I could commission a bag. And if I did commission a bag, it would take standard dry sacks and not be a bespoke shape/size.

yeah obv not now, I was just pointing out that you are a weirdo :P

Do you hate Carradice Barley? I am loving it atm. Good weight distribution, solid mounting mechanism, plenty of space for credit card touring with maybe a frame and a bar bag, most aero (?).

Fackin' epic. Nice work boss man.

Who makes them wheels then?

I've done saddle bags including a Carradice, and I've got the Apidura at the moment.

I dislike how the weight feels during climbing or exertion... if you swing the bike the bag swings, and one can feel it.

I like how the panniers I have on the Mather can't really be felt, they're that secure. But they're way too large, too tempting to fill, requires a little balancing of weight on both sides, and does nothing for aero.

So I want a bag that is light, small but expandable, puts the weight central, can be wide enough to fit realistic things (clothing, rolled up bivvy, superlight tent, etc)... and doesn't swing with exertion.

I think my ideal heavy set up would be a small top tube bag for spares and some food, a bar bag sometimes for cycle clothing or dirty clothes (rotate these around bags), and a tube like rack top bag for sleeping equipment and other bits of camp based clothing.

The light setup would likely just be either the bar bag or the rack top bag... depending on how they feel.

Who makes them wheels then?

EME I think :)

Full size frame bag and bar bag

I dislike frame bags for how they sometimes bulge if not packed perfectly.

I also find when doing more distance I prefer my knees to be following a comfortable path and not trying to avoid rubbing on a bag.

And I like stuff sacks for how they compress things.

A bar bag and stuff sack is already a nice thing... I just want similar on the rear of the bike. And it makes sense to point it in the direction of travel and put it on top of a rack rather than hang a cone-like shape under the saddle (which is what the Apidura and others are today).

Backpack and bumbag

I may just compression strap dry stuff sacks to a rack.

Best get some pedals: https://www.merlincycles.com/time-atac-xc12-ti-carbon-pedals-60546.html

Bottle cages? king ti?

You mean, after spending all that money, it doesn't pedal itself!?

I know, it's heartbreaking. There's not even a hidden motor.

This seems like a massive oversight on your part...

I've heard that Enve do bottle cages.

They're £60 or something... for a mere hint of carbon that manages to hold a bottle under perfect conditions.

may aswell stay on brand afterall!

Carradice with a bungee strap from the rack under the seat post, over there bag, under the rack and back over the bag to the rack again. Stops it swinging. It's in the Carradice thread.

UTFS

There's also this from Blackburn https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/blackburn-barrier-trunk-rack-top-bag/?currency=GBP&gclid=Cj0KCQjw557NBRC9ARIsAHJvVVNP4vI2ia6l-0XJ-xe7zxHPz6sEq6hymX3dNF_mma6dWBfdokBpxmMaAsB1EALw_wcB#pid=6678

Everready torches sellotaped to handlebars and saddle too?