US Politics

he did his best to get us out of europe, now he's doing his best to get us into america

thanks nige

I think Farage is just being sensible - he obviously recognises the benefits of belonging to a federalised group of states that enjoy free flow of labour, free trade, monetary union, military security and shared democratically elected legislative, executive and judicial branches of government.

u wot mate

Men of the people.

I see what you did there.

The general mistake though is lumping "People who are going to vote for the Conservatives, Brexit and Trump" in one basket. Given Labours strength in the North of England wasn't this the region to back BREXIT most vigorously? Far to many people want to make this a simple right v left / good v bad thing but it isn't that simple.

Yes, you're right - I was getting ranty and that point was poorly made.

Plenty of people in the rust belt that voted for Obama both times voted Trump.

Anti-globalism of work / neo-liberalism was a reason in the North among voters, from what I've seen.

I'm rather pissed off with the hard left in the UK here for promoting to leave the EU, as they are equally clueless on how to solve the issues of labor moving to low wage countries and now we are looking at an even worse situation with the Tories.

If the conservatives/city labour would have not neglected whole areas the past 4o years, we would not have been here. That's not a left/right issue though, it's a lack of work in areas/vs cities issue.

Yup. This is the main issue here (and arguably in 'Murica, too) with our political parties.
Neither party seem to want to do anything about it.

It's going to be a massive fight to fix it. If voters except quick and easy answers, it ain't gonna happen.

It's becoming a world wide issue BTW most people being in cities, then the prices go nuts, cities become unliveable, transport can't cope... only thing I can think of is to move remote IT work to nearby smaller cities and grow those. You need a proper road and backbone, but once people have a family the country doesn't look so bad if schools/houses are there.

My idea may completely not work though!

No doubt an "expert" has ideas :p

I think I hear the sound of a stable door slamming...
http://www.thedrum.com/news/2016/11/15/google-and-facebook-both-fake-news-clampdown-following-us-presidential-election-row

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04g5m0k

Leading Republican, Jim Gilmore, says many of Donald Trump's most controversial campaign pledges were made to prove he would be a strong leader, but he doesn’t think the President-elect will go through with them. Mr Gilmore said the idea of building a wall along the Mexican border was probably just a "metaphor", that America is committed to NATO and that a Muslim ban could not happen because it would be "unconstitutional". Mr Gilmore is the former Governor of Virginia and former chair of the Republican National Committee. He was a presidential nominee and is tipped for a job in the Trump administration.

lol

this is as good an assessment of the current state of affairs as you're ever likely to read today. the graph is particularly chilling. make sure you read all the way to the end.

https://medium.com/@SnoozeInBrief/an-analysis-of-donald-trumps-election-win-and-the-prospects-for-his-presidency-f6a87eef6d70#.apc1804xi

Tis good that, very even-handed.

Naah... It has some good points, but fails to really get to grips with other issues.
Most notably in the infographic where the segment for 'fuck' has been under-represented in favour of an over-simplistic focus on 'fuck'.

At least the straw-haired atrocity didn't write any promises on the side of a bus....

promises

metaphors

Calm down everyone- we can all breathe now: BoJo has said that we have a lot to be positive about with Trump in the White House.

phew! for a moment there i thought i might have to relinquish some of my hard earned privileges.

Rules for Rulers , how to be a ruler and remain a ruler, how to topple a ruler etc.

https://youtu.be/rStL7niR7gs

A superbly even-handed and balanced article. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I did read to the end and the points raised really tied-in with my current thinking on, not only the Trump 'presidency', but world affairs more generally. The final 'fuck' really spoke to me...

reminds me off this little book - https://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Rule-World-Handbook-Aspiring-x/dp/1556524978

“Bannon is going to be keeper of the image of Trump as a fighter
against the status quo, and Reince is going to utilize his personal
connections with the speaker and others, to make the trains run on
time,” Ken Blackwell, a former Ohio state official and a member of the
Trump transition team, told The Wall Street Journal. When you are
trying to convince America that its new leader is not a fascist, it’s
best not to make any Mussolini references.

Good to see that Trump wants Ivanka, Don Jr and his son-in-law to be national security advisors. We can all sleep a little more sweetly now.