What camera do I buy? / general gear talk

The 5k seems to have a metal ring at the end of the joints. But I didn’t plan to spend that much

The Manfrotto Pixi seems to be alright, though much less adaptable obviously.

I ordered this ball head and will probably use it on a GorillaPod 1K. Hope that works out

Any recommendations for a VHS camcorder? Slightly shit vhs image quality fine

@cyoa will know

What's the reason for you wanting VHS? Will help tailor suggestions.

Would you accept LaserDisc, it's next level.

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I like the look of it and fancy shooting some family occasions/kids growing up

Just download one of those vhs apps

Yeah, would rather do the real thing though

Currently mired in camera choice. I work in documentary/ factual TV and have just gone freelance. Done a lot of development and production but have a gaping hole in shooting skills despite a couple of C300II courses with work.

Taking advantage of having just quit to go on a little bike down and across the US with a mate, and plan to make a little film of it for posterity but also to use as a showreel ‘going forward’ to use for all those shooting AP gigs.

So, currently geeking out on cameras. I’ve bought an SLR before but ended up just using my iPhone on trips, so I want something small because I’ll end up using it more. Also needs to be fairly robust, decent battery, ideally shoot 1080 (no need for 4K), and a bit of stabilisation would be good.

Audio is something I’m happy to sacrifice on for now to hit my budget - whilst it would be nice to have audio in and out for my own rig, any job almost always rents cameras for you so no real need.

Got a budget around 500, willing to flex stuff which will do me well over a longer period.

Current options:

Panasonic GX80 (bargainous, good stabilisation - current front runner. Unsure which lens to use if bought body only from MBP, for 99 extra can be bought new with 12-32 kit lens)

Panasonic G80 (as above but weather sealed)

Sony A6300 (nicer image, audio in, sealed, in the Sony ecosystem and a lot of stuff is shot on FS7 in my field)

Panasonic Gh3 (cheap at 300 from MBP, could build into a nice little rig on budget, shoots nice 1080)

iPhone X/8 (always to hand, backup to cloud over longer trips, easy to keep charged, can go through rushes and slim down whilst on the road as I won’t have a laptop, will upgrade my phone anyway, can spread cost)

Or do I just shell out on a GH5, A7s?

@CYOA I have a feeling you might be the one with the knowledge!

I've got a GX80 which I use for stills, and it's really nice for the price. The lack of mic input would probably kill it for video though, no ? Especially when there's others in your price range that do ?

I’m not a video person but would think an iPhone and gimbal would be perfect.

Also seems super logical to me. But part of me does want to use this as an opportunity to get fully to grips with a ‘proper’ camera if you know what I mean.

Yeah - it’s the image stabilisation, USB charging and size I like about the GX80 and there’s workarounds in the future for audio ie Blackmagic video assist

A Gh5/A7S2 will mean, once you figure out how to use it, you can relatively easily get work as B-camming (or even A-cam) owner/op so it'd be a solid investment for the next 3-4 years. But they're not cheap once you add all the bits and bobs that make them worthwhile. And they do require quite some figuring out to really get the best out of them.

If you're having cameras rented for a-cam duties you're still more valuable than the next CV if you can offer a B-cam as part of the package of hiring you (though do make sure you at least charge even a token fee for this).

A6300/6500 get lots of points from me for the reasons you mention and it's easy for editors to match them to something like an FS5/7 so you can again find yourself using it on real shoots once you're back/continuing to build up your reel as and when you like.

Don't have experience with gh3 (gh4 is as early as I know) or the g80/gx80 but while I've seen some good looking footage from them (particularly the gx80 on Vimeo), realistically I don't think you'll be doing any broadcast work with them if you're going to your production manager. If it's not a camera name they recognise they'll freak out more often than not. (I may be wrong - just haven't come across them being used on anything I've worked on). This makes me think if one of those was an investment to use later in your career they're probably not worth it or if they're an investment to learn how to use cameras commonly accepted by broadcasters -they're probably not worth it.

The batteries don't last forever on any of these cameras (you can power many of them via USB power packs quite easily) which makes me think if you're biking across another country they're not the most practical choice unless you're staying somewhere for a few days at a time.

If it's more of a mobile down and dirty tour, you're not going to want to get the camera out, attach lens, check memory card, offload data, check batts etc all before finding out that it's too bright to shoot what you want without some ND or can't see the LCD screen etc etc.

So maybe a phone could be more practical for this trip. Also worth thinking what's good to you at the other end as a tool for booking your freelance AP gigs, invoicing, accessing callsheets etc. iPhones have some legit processing power and while I don't personally like the look of their video natively a lot of people do rate them and there are plenty of apps like Filmic Pro you can use to get some solid footage out of them.

TL;DR - figure out what you want to do with it short term, what kind of trip it will be etc and then what you need in the long term as well. There's no right answer and there'll always be regrets with whatever you choose.

(If you've got the money and the time on your tour, get a GH5 : ) )

a6300/a6500 tick more of these boxes than the GX80 apart from the size.

iPhone, DJI Osmo Mobile 2, Filmic Pro

need some advice on a cheap studio flash light set up. Will be taking photos of bikes against white back drop, were borrowing some but have had to give them back. Was looking at something like this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Neewer%C2%AE-Professional-Photography-Lighting-Portrait/dp/B012CKIHAA/ref=mp_s_a_1_sc_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1531753782&sr=8-6-spell&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=flsh%20kit%20sudio

Is this correct? Any other suggestions? ANyone got anything similar for sale?

this guys discuss what video kit he uses for bike tour filming https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WDoc5rsFgk

I'd shell out for a GH5. Resale value is super good and the footage is lovely.
GH5-shot cycling video I love:

https://vimeo.com/262810653

Tons to think about here - definitely steers me more towards A6300/500 or a GH5 as I tend to always regret doing things on the cheap a few months down the line and owner/op is exactly the route I want to be taking.

I'll rule out the GH4, GH3 and G80. Can see they're all flawed choices.

GX80 is still in the running though, it's cheap enough to take a punt on without having too many regrets.

Might just upgrade the iPhone as well for the hell of it! Although I'm also not a fan of the look of the video they shoot. That 'Tangerine' film which was raved about as it was all shot on a few iPhones just looked like it was.....all shot on iPhone.

Thanks for all this. Which bit of the industry are you working in out of interest?

Ooooph that is nice. Also all fully on trend. Any idea what their full filming set up was? GH5 + Mavic Pro?

I bought an a6500 partly on @CYOA's recommendation and it's been great so far. But I suspect an A6300 would be almost as good providing you got a stabilised lens.
Have just added a video assist 4k which is a huge improvement for filming and something you could look at getting when you came back if you wanted to make it more useful.