EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

the Wife Swap thing wasn't as bad as I thought it would be...but still

the 'Leave' wife wanted to celebrate 'Britishness' by having a VE day celebration

Teenage girl of 'Remain' family - 'Er.....but VE day celebrations are because it was victory for Europe?'

Apparently putting the 'Great' back into Britain consisted of bunting, sandwiches and singing Vera Lynn songs

Victory in Europe.

So even worse, from a lexical point of view.

I was talking to a director of purportedly the world's biggest relocation company recently. He says they're running cost analysis for numerous large companies, many of whom are looking at Ireland.

Though he did say it's so expensive to relocate that none of them will push the button until we actually do leave, in case we either don't, or the deal is good enough that staying put is an option.

We just need to hope Mrs May doesn't fuck up the negotiations...

We just need to hope Mrs May doesn't fuck up the negotiations...

So everyone is fucked.

I'm slowly making progress on Project:Girona office.

Doesn't surprise me.

Some NI companies have expanded in Republic of Ireland just in case...

Somebody wrote a long post about how regulations take ages to negotiate too, just staying in the eaa and slowly forgetting this happened is the fastest way out I guess...

This is smug and soul destroying but it all just makes painful sense.
Cameron seems kind of okay sometimes looking back (now we've got May) but you just have to remember brexit, and all the hate comes flooding back.

This is a party that has plunged its country into an existential crisis because it was too weak to stand up to a minority of nationalist zealots and tabloid press barons. It is as strong as a jellyfish and as stable as a flea.

Awesome

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/death-of-brexit-at-the-hands-of-theresa-may-a-1152330.html

As things look now, last week's election was only the first wave of
anger that is currently breaking over the country. The worse the times
get, the more powerful it will become. And in a few years, it is
almost certain that there will be a government interested in rejoining
the EU. Which is possible, but the conditions offered are almost sure
to be worse.

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2017/06/15/brexit-talks-start-on-monday-and-we-have-no-idea-what-we-re

May herself is damaged goods of the sort which can never be repaired.
Her humiliation is too specific and too great. She will never have any
authority around that Brussels negotiating table, nor back home in
Westminster. Brussels doesn't have confidence that she can deliver on
the promises she makes in Europe or even that she is likely to still
be prime minister by the next time they have a meeting. What an
unspeakable shambles these people are.

And that clock just keeps on ticking down to March 31st 2019 - the
product of a prime minister so arrogant, dim-witted and disreputable
that she would trigger Article 50 and then hold an election after the
countdown had begun.

I'm making plans to escape to Spain too. Apart from learning the language the most difficult question is, work from home for a UK company or try and find local work.

It's a mess.

work from home for a UK company

But would that UK company be able to to employ EU employees (which maybe you'd be?) easily?

try and find local work

But would that local company be able to employ UK employees (which maybe you'd be?) easily?

That's a good point, I had just looked at doing things as an EU national. Shit.

Welcome to my world ;-)

This is the sole reason I won't take up British citizenship.

Given that brexit is supposed to be a definite thing, which is definitely happening, definitely, it is interesting to note the odds on it happening on betfair right now.

3:2 remain, 5:2 leave.

Hmmmmm.

You'd probably be fine with the second, as I'd like to think that the EU will make it easy to employ UK people as as an insult to our govt and to facilitate a brain drain.

But it's so hard to plan for it when you can't second guess a decision two years away, by which point a lot of options currently open will have closed.

I'm just kicking off my Irish citizenship application now. It's a bit of a faff as it requires original documents but it seems worth doing now rather than holding out and hoping for the best.

How have they defined each term?

Adopt me?

We wouldn't have you anyway

EU treaties ceasing to apply to UK by 29th March 2019.

So, any delay loses the bet.

Hmm, I think I need a less specific term than that.
Something like 'Soft / Hard' or 'Red, White and Blue' and I'd be tempted by a punt.

Brexit is fucked. We haven't got a functioning government so how on earth are the EU going to be able to agree anything with them?

What we're lacking is a leader with the balls to stand up and say that, irrespective of the referendum, leaving the EU is fucking suicidal right now and we shall stick with it.

Cue lots of Brexiteers going mental, but I reckon if it comes to a fight the young and middle aged people of the country can see off Dad's Army.

You just know that the next time MayBot speaks to the country and mentions brexit it will be the same old shit, with no content.

@andyp is totally right, we need someone who will point out that the emporer is naked.

What we're lacking is a leader with the balls to stand up and say that, irrespective of the referendum, leaving the EU is fucking suicidal right now and we shall stick with it.

I wish we could have that, but as that seems to be extremely unlikely, why not set up a proper cross-party, bipartisan negotiating team involving the brightest and best (assuming there are some somewhere) to actually try to make the least worst exit.