EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

MPs will vote for the best option

They won't because 'democracy'.

Labour will just sleepily go along with whatever... And Jeremy will be away making jam anyway.

It doesn’t occur to SW1 and the media that outside London their
general outlook is seen as extreme. Have an immigration policy that
guarantees free movement rights even for murderers, so we cannot
deport them or keep them locked up after they are released? Extreme.
Have open doors to the EU and don’t build the infrastructure needed?
Extreme. Take violent thugs who kick women down stairs on CCTV, there
is no doubt about their identity, and either don’t send them to jail
or they’re out in a few months? Extreme. Have a set of policies that
stops you dealing with the likes of ‘the guy with the hook’ for over a
decade while still giving benefits to his family? Extreme. Ignore
warnings about the dangers of financial derivatives, including from
the most successful investor in the history of the world, and just
keep pocketing the taxes from the banks and spending your time on
trivia rather than possible disasters? Extreme. Make us – living on
average wages without all your lucky advantages – pay for your
bailouts while you keep getting raises and bonuses? Extreme and stupid
– and contemptible.

This all seems like an argument for arbitrary powers exercised by the government and against the rule of law. I guess that makes me a bubble dwelling elitist for saying it.

That said, these are two concepts that are inconvenient for politicians so they are not exactly incentivised to explain to their voters why they are a good thing

Has anyone conducted a poll recently to see if the country still wants Brexit?

Looks like our fellow countryfolk were still retards in November

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/11/17/brexit-briefing/

Judges are taking their seats.

may defeated

Big question still to come, but my hopes aren't high.

The devolved question is the more interesting one. Still to come...

Amazing...

does this matter? Havent most MPs made their mind including labour that they are voting to leave?

Oh, no consultation with the devolved massives (i.e. Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland) needed. That's not good.

Devolved governments don't get a say.

Corbyn had said they'll put forward amendments, so there's room for fighting there.

The house of lords will be interesting.

Might the lords block it?

No, of course not.

This

Hoping Sturgeon et all can veto

Oh fucksticks

The foaming at the mouth UKIP group I joined on facebook is wall-to-wall shit memes from people who look like grandparents.

Which means that the timetable is back on. time to go write to your MPs and tell them what you think on it.

this should help - https://www.writetothem.com/

I just glanced at the Express comments. I read first ten. Two of them were thinly velied death threats to the "trator eurofile judges"

Yes, expect the rabid tabloids to skip this paragraph at the beginning of the judgment.

If I may...it's a bit bullshit to think "middleclass" people think it's ok not to send murders back (which is actually bullshit in many cases) the big issues are government incompetency (information not being exchanged), lack of investment etc.

All difficult sells, along with "human rights for all" and getting rid of faith schools, so a "BUT THE EU DID IT" is the easy way out for politicians.

Cos Mr Hook Man is a twat, but if you need to explain to people that exceptions to human rights will at some point end at their door, because bad things also happen to good people, that point won't go in easily.

a few FB tory 'friends' bigging up the supreme court result... you voted for cameron m8!

And more thoughts on this chestbeating/accusing of the "educated middle class": Come on now, as some "working class" areas never go out of their area/comfort zones...it works both ways.

But it's not good for democracy.

Wait, you have FB Tory friends left?

Tsss. Disappoint, rant harder :p

there's two of them. and one of them gets me freelance work every so often... watcha gonna do.