EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

I got my citizenship 6 months ago. My plan is to milk my current contract dry and then move to the continent. Few of my work mates are planning to do the same thing. One of them is sorting out his Maltese citizenship to have a EU passport. Fun times.

So now what, can you fill it with a local person or are the skills just not there? :/

That's just terrible, considering she'd just become British.

So bloody depressing. We're letting the arseholes win and good people like your friend will forever associate the UK with this sorry saga.

yeah but soverignty

#npf

The UK has made itself look like a bunch of tits abroad.

Part of it is media bias as there's a lot of coverage on rank idiots and not so much on the lexit reasons and globalization issues. Ultimately that fueled the out vote too but it gets less coverage as it's harder to put in little chunks and to parody.

But the way the Brexit campaign was ran with the leaflets and lies it would never end well. All this due to Tory infighting and needless arseholery from the main Leave leaflets.

But hey #democracyhasspoken

/alufoil hat on

Perhaps he will join Pegida/BNP then to continue his work, as a mate of mine on Facebook thought

/alufoil hat off

Also, I hope he gets declared persona not grata

Obviously you know her and her reasons far better than I, but isn't that a bit of a over-reaction? I assume if she has gone to the bother of getting citizenship she wanted to live and work here, and has presumably been here a while. Given the stated uncertainty of what is going to happen, why not wait and see for a bit - it's hardly going to happen overnight and the citizenship she was so happy about getting is still just as valid?

Just my 2p but, if you became a UK citizen so you could work here and in the EU then it seems like a sensible move to start looking at establishing yourself in a country that will stay in the EU.

The timescales around our exit are likely to be a decade*, but you never know. So what have you got to lose by securing your position now. She can always come back.

*my guess

Suppose so. But if you were happy in your job and happy with getting citizenship why not stick with it? I guess my thoughts are that if she was always planning on using GB citizenship to get a job in the EU, it's not completely a Brexit issue that she's gone - she would have gone anyway. To up and leave before having any idea what will happen after being excited to get citizenship seems to be over-reacting.
But anyway - I don't know her circumstances so it matters not.

Dunno Germany looks good atm.

As an EU national I can emphatise. The fuckery of the leave campaign over our collective immigration back wasn't nice.

Combine that with the loss in £ value and massive uncertainty and taking a great offer becomes more interesting.

I have an Italian colleague who, after the vote, felt completely unwelcome and hugely pissed off. He was looking for work in the UK when his current role ended. Not anymore.

I still think most UK people are ok. A referendum like this would flush out the arseholes everywhere.

But I'm seeing this as a loss for everything bar just not wanting to be in the EU cos reasons. Unless the UK gov completely changes its tune on many things.

I still think most UK people are ok. A referendum like this would flush out the arseholes everywhere.

Just because someone voted for brexit doesn't make them an arsehole.

Correct. This in relation to the above posts of people that feel very unwelcome.

The official Leave campaign played a big role IMHO with blaming many things on immigration, then Farage with his shitty poster and on top of that post vote racism/xenophobia.

So while there are many non arsehole reasons to vote for leaving the EU, the leave campaign empowered the true arseholes. And I really do wonder if they really didn't know that would happen or didn't care.

Still does that mean all of a sudden post leave vote, the UK is suddenly arsehole richer. I doubt that. But why risk it if you don't have to?

Reading the posts above, I can't help but think, that maybe we'd be better off without people coming here to milk the country. Maybe I'm misinterpreting the above posts of people leaving for better prospects, but people who come to the UK become a citizen only to gain the benefits of a UK passport pisses me off. Please feel free to come to live here and input into making us a better off country, but don't milk us for a retirement package.

^ Le sigh
How many times do the figures about migrants being massive net contributors to the country need to be wheeled out?
Coming over here, expanding our businesses, bringing their fresh ideas and open minds... And to have the cheek to want to leave once they feel massively alienated by those around them, how fucking dare they?

You get no benefits and no NHS (you have to pay extra) if you are non EU.

Somebody I know had to get a passport as she's USA bit earns under 35K a year...she runs a charity. That, or eviction.

You pay the same taxes. You weren't educated here if you came here as an adult saving the UK loafs of £££

But if you don't want my tax money...

Also: Why do I have to improve your country while your OWN government is busy fucking it up voted in by your own people? ;)

I always vote, I think people should all get chances, I might volunteer once studies are done, but there are enough people (in any country) that do f-all and got their passport by birth.

How about we all help each other up instead of us VS them? Brexit has made it clear the us vs them isn't just immigrants vs UK born but also have vs have not.

i've written and deleted about three replies to this - think i'm just going to go with 'twat'.

I can't help but think

Which would seem to sum you up

we'd be better off without people coming here to milk the country.

I agree.

Amazon, Vodafone, Starbucks, countless financial institutions. They all come here, take advantage of the infrastructure and stability, and syphon profits offshore, untaxed, into the hands of fewer and fewer people.

Or wasn't that the particular dog whistle you were blowing?

So, given the above responses. How exactly do you mean "milk the country". We get immigrants coming here and contributing to the net development and wealth of the country. The have to jump through hoops to get visas, to get leave to remain and to finally apply for citizenship. All the while they'll have been making that aforementioned contribution. So if, at the end of the day, they end up with the benefits of a UK passport, such as free movement around the EU and slightly less racial profiling from immigration officials and the right to come here and live and work when they want, isn't that a fair exchange? Or do you think they're getting more than they're giving? If so, perhaps share some examples?
And I'm keen to know what this "retirement package" is that you get just for having a UK passport? As far as I'm aware, there isn't one. Any pension provision that I'm aware of is based on contribution of National Insurance. Please enlighten me because I would hate to miss out on something that I'm entitled to as a UK passport holder.

Actually, while I'm on the subject. With all of these immigrants coming over here and making a contribution and getting citizenship in return, how do you feel about British citizens going to other countries and milking them? Does that piss you off? Should we be controlling why our own citizens go to other countries?

Hmm, maybe people are allowed opinions without being called 'twat'.
To clarify, I live in an area where social deprivation is rife and the local community needs every penny it can get. There are publicly available stats that show there is literally millions of pounds leaving through the area via banks to other countries.
So, yes when I see shops closing, deprivation getting more rife because of people from other countries taking the money out and quite openly declaring it's for their retirement, I do get pissed off.
FYI I voted to remain and really do enjoy living in a multicultural country and have led a long and very happy married life with an Asian lady and our mixed heritage kids.
In regards to the large companies that come here and pay relatively fuck all in taxes, that pisses me off too.