EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

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  • Not for Johnson and his cronies. Every day is April Fool's Day for them. And guess who the fools are?

  • …there are so many to choose from—the fishermen? The “that’ll teach them in London” lot aka the ex-red wall? The DUP?

  • I assume that at least some fishermen weren't taken in by Farage's fish-flinging boat trips up the Thames and voted Remain and who didn't vote Conservative at the last election. I'd say it's anyone who voted Leave, or who voted Conservative/DUP at the last election and who doesn't have a very large amount of highly mobile (preferably liquid) capital they can use as a buffer against the inevitable consequences of a Tory hard Brexit.

  • A reminder to http://www.gov.uk where we are today


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  • If you're going to make a visualization of the European Union, of course the UK won't be in it. So why include the UK? Or not the hundreds of other countries who are also not in it? If you're interested in the UK's ties to Europe I've seen other visualisations that try to show more, such as:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Supranational_European_Bodies-en.svg/800px-Supranational_European_Bodies-en.svg.png

    And of course, there is the eu-uk "trade and cooperation" agreement, which seems relevant but not included.

  • Just got hammered for £61 import tax on an item that cost £200 from Lenovo. Should website now carry a message that you maybe subject to import tax? Would have used Amazon if I'd known as much as I hate to use them.

  • There would have been some small print about being responsible for local taxes etc. I got caught buying from the UK recently where they declared zero VAT on the sale and so I had to pay VAT (no problem) and handling (thieves) when it landed here.

  • NI is part of the UK, should GB not be completely outside instead of UK?

    As we are still fully in the CU.

    Re customs:

    At my partner's workplace French made welding parts (France to here is fine) got sent via England. Blam! Stuck in customs, now lost by courier on returning 🙄

  • Did you buy it from the 'Lenovo Official UK Site' or some other bit of them? I'd expect the official UK site to list the delivered price so open a support ticket and complain. On the other hand if you started at lenovo.fr or something it's different.

    I've bought Lego this year which came from .be and arrived with all duty/tax/handling paid by Lego so it is possible.

  • I did have a quick look through there website before buying, but couldn't see anything obvious, which is probably the point.

  • Yep from the official site, and yes will be making a complaint.

  • Interesting response, the diagram I posted also shows countries outside the EU but in Europe and refers to

    UK’s status in European economic, trade, travel arrangements

    it’s the lack of agreement/arrangements in place for the UK which makes me feel 🥶 🤢 😞

    I could be wrong but were we not in the same space as Cyprus and Eire before the referendum, not exactly at the heart of Europe..

  • We, the UK, were outside of the Eurozone, so with Bulgaria, Romania & Croatia?

  • https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/mar/03/supermarkets-may-get-more-time-to-adapt-to-northern-ireland-trading-rules-brexit?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

    EU: you have not set up all the checks you are legally bound to do. Get those done and we can talk about more relaxations.
    Brandon "there is no Irish sea border" Lewis: lolno.

    Ugh.

  • Hmm. This budget. Having scanned the headline news, all the ‘headwind / challenge / situation / senario’ contexts for decisions on spending (borrowing. rather) seem to have been predicted on or against the impact on the economy of the (lack of effort to mitigate) c-19, rather than the double whammy of fucktard Brexit conservative arseshit.
    Should I be surprised? I know! Speechless.
    Apart from selling arms to Saudi murderers. Some economic turnover can always be relied on to prop up all the c*nts. Looking at you ‘Cleverly’.

  • Sorry, not having a go at you, or flying a Brexit flag. My response is more about the visualisation being misleading, rather than politics generally. It presumably exists to make a political point rather than provide an overview of links between European nations, which is a bit shit. We do have a trade agreement with the EU, and we are in a CTA with RoI. I think those would fall under "economic, trade, and travel agreements" which the visualisation claims to be representing. Beyond that, there are other EU schemes we remain part of (we are still a part of the ERC and should join Horizon Europe, and I assume there are many others).

    Basically, it kind of annoyed me when I woke up this morning so I had a moan.

  • Frost has broken International law on his first day - does look very much like his job is to pick fights with the EU so that Johnson can continue to play the grievance card.

  • Isn’t Andorra part of the eurozone? Not a member state but I’m pretty sure I’ve seen Andorran euro coins before.

  • With the recent Begum judgement they might want to be careful- they are all entitled to Irish citizenship so could be deprived of their British identity by Priti Patel.

  • Of course they have nowhere to go

    Scotland?

  • https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1367419042592681985.html

    Good thread from Michael Dougan (EU law videos, born in Belfast) on the latest stunt and unionism.

  • https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56278125

    Ireland: (stuck in the middle with us, also critical of EU aborted move on vaccines made in UK) UK can't be trusted.

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