EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

The organised left has out mobilised the Brexit thugs at pretty much every turn ... there won't be any riots

riots! a few placards, some kettling of gammon then everyone back home for Bake Off

fucking riots! they couldn't riot their way out of a Greggs

Typo
“Deliver Brexit and there’ll be riots”

Since when do decisions in a parliamentary democracy get made by riot?

Riots = looting shops for tellies & trainers.

Who knew Nigel Blackwell was so prescient
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Interesting thread looking at John Majors comments about how Bojo is likely to try an get round the Been act.

https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1177308131644325888

If this looks like to happen will it be enough to get the 21 tory rebels to get behind a vote of no confidence and put together a government of national unity.

Riots = looting shops for rice.

Are we all believing in Brexit yet?

If this looks like to happen will it be enough to get the 21 tory rebels to get behind a vote of no confidence and put together a government of national unity.

I don't think a VONC can help. If you lose a proper[1] VONC then you have 14 days to win a VOC otherwise the General Election is triggered. If all of the above starts to kick off on October 19th/20th (after the EU summit) then 14 days takes it past Oct 31st.

1. As in a VONC in HM's Government. A VONC in an individual (i.e. the PM) has no binding action.
   

Its my understanding the the opposition get 14 days to form a government, if that fails then its an election.

Since when do decisions in a parliamentary democracy get made by riot?

Poll Tax?

Ah, yes, forgot that bit. That does make it interesting.

This. If it comes to it, they will manage to pick a GNU leader. It will be a bitter fight but MPs are more afraid of No Deal than e.g. PM Corbyn.

It seams like the only way out of no deal right now, given that Boris isn't going to have to think twice about using a loophole to get round the Benn Act. Hopefully the fact that this route is now public it'll be enough to galvanised the opposition a bit like the prorogation did.

Riots = looting shops for British rice grown on British soil by British People.

Riots = looting shops for tellies & trainers.

The sort of comments I come across in the snobbier sections of Mumsnet

Brendan O'Neill on Politics Live saying "there should be riots"

What a horrible man...

Yes, I'm aware of that one, but was in a simular situation of a government official saying "oh we have to cancel the poll tax cos riots" before it went through?

I understood it was already very unpopular before it passed the vote in Parliament, whereas Brexit has more support, sorta...

It was also an English/Welsh issue, not affecting Scotland/NI due to different laws here.

A comparison of poll tax and failed/flawed brexit project is pretty pointless apart from perhaps a parallel of realised and potential civil unrest, politically and moralistically speaking.

Errrr. Poll tax was introduced in Scotland in '89, England and Wales '90.

I dunno - the last big riots we had in London may have started for reasons but they resulted in a lot of looting and wanton destruction. There will always be people who take advantage of these situations. Maybe I'm in a bubble (and please pop it for me if this is the case) but this seems fairly uncontroversial.

This seems to show a fairly event split of targets (Argos, Tescos, Currys and JD sport being top targets)

OK.

I could have been clearer and asked "So, if some in the government say you must/must not do A because then riots may happen and they have plausible grounds to believe this, does this have form in the UK? And if so what was the reaction last time?"

I don't feel like boiling it down to simplisms, just feels strange to me for people to suggest "there will be riots so we just suspend all parliamentary decision making and have to do this thing cos you say so"

OK I got that wrong then.
They don't exist in NI.

But as others said, it is not a good comparison for other reasons, it was reaction to somebody on my post who replied "poll tax riots" to my question "Since when do decisions in a parliamentary democracy get made by riot?"?

And Holland & Barrett was completely left alone I believe.