EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

The Express, Mail and Sun are all painting this as a Corbyn failure. That's the core base Bojo and Cummings care about. That base won't have seen his incoherent nationalist wafflings in Parliament yesterday as a fail.

Realistically though, how many people watch PMQ rather than getting the edited highlights from their news source of choice? It almost feels like an anachronism given modern politics is increasingly all about bluster and avoiding the issue so it's just a question of who can land the best joke.

Sun

Not in scotland amusingly. The headline is anti Johnson:

https://twitter.com/MsKateLyons/status/1169493075665702912

The Sun is populist and the Scottish version has long played to its local audience. I'm assuming Cummings's arithmetic wasn't so daft as to gamble on gaining support in Scotland, regardless of Boris's unhappiness at being booed when he visited. I'd expect both of them are more than ready to wave Scotland goodbye altogether if it secures power for Trumpian nationalist government in England.

We are united
behind the need to avoid
a no-deal Brexit.
–––
Paul Blomfield @PaulBlomfieldMP
4th September 2019
https://t.co/ADznpAp3vx

https://twitter.com/hansardhaiku/status/1169543254003671041?s=19

do they have a pact agreed with the Brexit party.

I'd be very surprised if they did. None of the major parties want to sit out of any seat, it makes them look weak. Also, you don't want to agree to work together until you know how many seats they're bringing to the table. A highly publicised pact with the Brexit party if they subsequently only win a couple of seats would be counter-productive.

In a lot of areas the Brexit party are probably mainly a threat to Labour. There are a lot of working class towns who will still refuse to vote Tory but would view the Brexit party as palatable.

Farage said that he would not put up a candidate in conservative target seats if BoJo had ‘No deal’ in the manifesto.

https://twitter.com/JoJohnsonUK/status/1169555292918571008

Quits making it pretty clear he doesn't think his brother's actions are in the national interest.

Jo Johnson has quit!

There are a lot of working class towns who will still refuse to vote Tory but would view the Brexit party as palatable.

Yup, but that never really worked out for UKIP, a lot of votes and a lot of second places, but no seats.

Despite riding high in the polls the Brexit party have failed in 2 by elections. Peterborough should have been a total slam dunk for them it about as brexit as it gets, but labour held the seat. Yes the focus was on local issue but that's the same ground game that Labour have the man power to play seat by seat. The brexit party have a bit of suspect money, but that's it.

Yes, I think the impact of the Brexit party in terms of their own seats has been exaggerated. I can't see them getting more than a handful, if that.

The issue, I think, will be in them taking some labour vote and costing Labour seats against the lib dems.

We shouldn't make hasty assumptions about what the Brexit Party will do to Labour voters. Peterborough should not have gone back to Labour taking into consideration: their last Labour MP, a history of not being a Labour seat, and how Peterborough voted in the referendum.

It's obviously a threat, but the possibility of a united Tory/Brexit strategy is just as, or bigger, of a threat. Things are complicated.

Jo Johnson

Looking at the last election results you'd think it would be a pro-Brexit shoe-in for his replacement.

However, in 2005 it was 51% tory and 40% LibDem, with Bromley being marginally in favour of leave. So if Lab and Greens don't field candidates, a LibDem MP could be a real possibility.

https://electionresults.parliament.uk/election/2017-06-08/results/Location/Constituency/Orpington

Also Luciana Berger joined the LibDems.

#centristdadsoftheworldunit

Timing isn't surprising. Makes sense if she wants to win back her seat. Would be a lot harder as an independent and I assume the Lib Dems have been telling her she needs to decide what she wants to do before they decide to pick their candidate.

This is madder than an early 90s WWF script. Absolutely nuts.

This response is fucking priceless.

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Also thought the daily's headlines were interesting:

https://www.itv.com/news/2019-09-05/he-just-can-t-win-papers-react-to-boris-johnson-s-commons-defeat/

Not the first time that joke has ever been made but yes.

HIGNFY has gone with this line too

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well I thought it was funny both times.

Idiot Tory MP Daniel Kawczynski defended Boris's sacking of 21 mps in parliament - in a 1922 Committee meeting - last night; he was booed by many of his fellow tories. Andrew Neil just asked him about that on Po litics Live. He couldn't deny it but claimed "many of them came up to me afterwards, quietly, to say they actually agreed with me".

Shameless liar and such a stupid one. As if Tory MPs who back their government would be quiet about it.

Andrew Neil. I wonder what he's telling himself to justify all this fucking madness.

He finished the show by skewering Jo Swinson on her "Never Jeremy Corbyn" stance. I guess he's having fun.