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• #19102
TIG is a group not a party, that’s like inviting the ERG along because they have a lot of MPs who are members.
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• #19103
She wasn’t talking to MP’s she was talking directly to the people. Almost like she has kicked off her 2nd referendum campaign. Seems to be heading along the lines of choose me or choose parliament, everybody take sides.
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• #19104
Good news, it has been tabled for debate in April..
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• #19105
How can they they're not even a legitimate party? Why invite these fuckos and not any other independent? Ummuna and Soubry speak for Ummuna and Soubry. Besides, they'll be gone come the next election.
Centrist dads getting salty about this while cheering about Ummuna's turbo flounce out of Labour is pretty wild.
Timewasters
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• #19106
it might have been fun to see her trying to sort out the result of it.
She probably would have sat down with 'fuckoes' who 'flounced' from her party, if there was something important at stake.
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• #19107
Half a millions.
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• #19108
Except that the ERG members ostensibly take the conservative whip, so May will not concede that she doesn't control them.
Really don't get what all the fuss is about tbh. They are a group of MPs and they nominate one to represent them. Does it matter if they aren't yet officially a party by designation?
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• #19109
Half a millions.
Well, it will be in ten minutes
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• #19110
Does it matter if they aren't yet officially a party by designation?
They've all got a vote, they presumably will vote en-bloc.
They may not officially be a party, but if it looks like a party and quacks like a party...
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• #19111
But it's a very convenient excuse for walking out of a negotiation that you actually want to fail, especially as the SNP, PC, and TIG want a people's vote and you very much do not.
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• #19112
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Edit: that didn't work, never mind
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• #19113
Then it should register as a party and declare finances/etc as a party. More cakism at the cake party.
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• #19114
Does what you want them to do now/in future change the current reality that they're MP's, with votes, today?
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• #19115
Nailed it
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• #19116
Want to try and push for her deals several times, but refuse to acknowledge people do changes their mind since 2017.
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• #19117
And, as many people pointed out at the time, her red lines were incompatible with frictionless trade and the NI border.
By not recognising this then and ploughing on regardless, she set a trap for herself that she was always going to get caught in.
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• #19118
Just to demonstrate the point about 50:50 split
Here is the leaver petition
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/229963Here is the remain petition
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584It's not really 50:50, but there are many reasons why one might be clicking up faster than the other.
question: these petitions: is the number of people who signed taken into account once over the magic 100k?
Also: I can see why Corbo walked, but he really shouldn't have. Unless it was about the fact TM didn't / wouldn't listen to anyone else.
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• #19120
Worth pointing out that the scales are different
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• #19121
% of constituents is more interesting (although still different scales)
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• #19122
Doesn’t that apply to every MP in parliament? Isn’t that why they all vote on stuff?
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• #19123
502 Bad Gateway on the Petitions site... too much traffic?!
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• #19124
P.s. I signed last night before it was famous...
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• #19125
It was at 590000 last I checked...
The TIG twats represent more MPs than the lib Dems or plaid cymru, it's hardly surprising they were there.
It's clearly the fault of the centrist dads though, not Corbyn displaying the political judgement of a small child.