EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

That is how I'd describe both of them.

Is there really that much difference between Katie Mensch and Louise Hopkins?

Katie Mensch has a job currently...

Sectoral analyses amount to two (2) lever arch files apparently....

I'm surprised it is that much.
I could fit 58 headings and the summary 'We're fucked!' on just the single, crisp sheet of A4.

Robin Walker: "We have not edited or redacted reports...we have collated information in a way that doesn't include some material."

Then that's ok then.

Fuck me: https://archive.fo/CDBFf

The guy who wrote that is a bit of an oddball
https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news/uk/fake-views-mep-daniel-hannan-says-hes-walking-english-countryside-tweets-picture-vermont-usa/

Amazing; in their flight from the City, there's not enough global banks considering Leeds as a new base IMHO

That's a wishlist that conveniently ignores the long term investment and planning-not to mention immigrant labour-required to realise such a vision.

Claiming that the economy is being held back by Brussels after almost 10 years of austerity and underinvestment is a fucking joke...

Reads like alt history fiction.

Yes, that's rather what I thought. In other news, we've agreed to pay the full 100Bn the EU asked for.

Probably because we hold all the cards.

We won’t pay, as the talks will collapse over the Irish border issue, which the Brexiteers will blame on the Irish and their EU cohorts who don’t think a frictionless border policed by blockchained airships quite cuts it.

Have we? Is there a source for that?

It’s being reported in the FT.

We won’t pay, as the talks will collapse over the Irish border issue, which the Brexiteers will blame on the Irish and their EU cohorts who don’t think a frictionless border policed by blockchained airships quite cuts it.

We'll simply explain to Varadkar that Ireland has to leave the EU at the same time that we do.

Holding all the cards, as we do, they'll have no choice but to do so.

Thanks. Along with a discussion on how it will be presented to make it more palatable. Presumably they won't present it as almost 6 years of 350m weekly NHS payments.

The repeated use of the word 'frictionless' suggests to me that the users are the political equivalent of flat-earthers,
and,
that they have never imported nor exported anything. (Vat/ import tax-free stuff purchased on the 'net doesn't count).

Following AndyP's observation:

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I like Dave Allen Green. But what's cunning about the EU not having a position?

I think it's a "give a man enough rope" situation. The only solution is to remain in SM/CU, but the EU don't want to present that - Brexiters would go nuts with the "EU dictates blah blah".

If we come to that conclusion ourselves then it's (yet another) massive U-turn from May, not the EU dictating terms.

A theory, anyway.

UK/NI/Eire is unuque geography, (with the possible exception of those tiny bits of land on the Belgian/Dutch border). The EU doesn't have a law/rule/policy for such an unlikely situation. It was always up to the Leave campaign to devise a workable resolution. Leaving the Customs Union means there has to be a border.

The we just need to capitulate on citizens rights, and we can move onto the exit discussions.