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• #2
Good grease, well packed and check them regularly and no harm will come from salty water unless you ride it in the sea.
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• #3
As savage says, also once they're greased and perfect a good blob of vasaline around the outside will seal them well. Opened up hubs that had been sealed that way 30+ years ago and were spotless inside.
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• #4
I would still prefer to put some rubber around them, like MTB
@Constable_Savage do You mean opening them up or just noise check?
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• #5
YouTube will show how to do it and what to use but take your cone and locknut off one side. Clean the bearing surfaces, bearings and component parts then grease them up and check frequently until your mind is put to rest. Well maintained they'll last for ages. Use the Vaseline trick as belt braces.
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• #6
Use a hub that has sealed bearings.
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• #7
is it possible to buy and install such sealing for track hubs
No.
Since you won't listen to the good advice you're being given I'll just answer your question directly.
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• #8
Since you won't listen to the good advice you're being given I'll just answer your question directly.
I refrained from saying it, but I'm glad somebody else thought the same
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• #9
what the ^%&, I explained as good as I could that I'm not exactly familiar with these things. would you be so kind and repeat the good advice I just won't listen to? putting vaseline around it? bought the damn thing today, I still think proper rubber sealing would do better in the given conditions. so your advice is completely useless, kudos @Skülly
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• #10
would you be so kind and repeat the good advice I just won't listen to?
Posts #2 and #3.
is it possible to buy and install such sealing for track hubs
No.
I would still prefer to put some rubber around them, like MTB
That's as maybe, but the answer is still no.
I still think proper rubber sealing would do better in the given conditions.
Yes it would, but if you want that see post #6.
Use your preferred search engine to familiarise yourself with the differences between "cup & cone" and "sealed bearing" hubs.
The "friendliest forum on teh internet" is home to any number of some of the most knowledgeable, experienced and helpful types you might care to meet (a small selection of whom you have met above).
However, broadly speaking, there is a limited tolerance for people who a) choose to ignore the answers they don't want to hear and b) aren't prepared to make as much of an effort as those they ask their questions of.
Have a browse through Sheldon Brown's and Park Tools' pages: required reading for all "noobs".
:) xx
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• #11
Ummmm not sure if sarcastic ... but anyway. Novatec/halo/BLB/Formula all have sealed bearings, similar to what you find in skate wheels. Pretty good at fending off the weather.
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• #12
you sound a little tight arsed, perhaps some vaseline may help in more than one location
or instead you can buy new hubs that have sealed bearings.
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• #13
So you asked a question about your hubs, and then you say that you have gone and got the hubs today, despite the advice you've been given?
Here's a thing. Watch some track racing. See how nice and dry it is on the velodrome?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNpfLyzXRdE
Then watch some mountain bike racing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSqj8c8LaBQ
Imagine the mud and water the hub bearings are exposed to.
Then choose the equipment for the job.
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• #14
Yeah, but plenty of 'track' hubs get used on the road. And outdoor tracks exist, where rain also occurs. I know you know this.
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• #15
Lols aside, I genuinely think the vasaline trick works much better than some(admittedly cheap) sealed bearing hubs I've used. Killed a novatec in under a year but got an unsealed campagnolo pista wheelset which I've had for 5yrs and only regreased once. No idea how long they were left before I opened them.
Myky - stop being a bedwetter and just ride your bike. If it starts to crunch then service it. Basic bike maintenance....
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• #16
I got the vaseline and understand the difference between track and MTB conditions perfectly, I chose to get a track bike because it's light (and btw totally out of style where I live, HHSRB are the thing right now here :) and usually I only ride when it's sunny at Sunday
what I wanted to know if it's possible to put a piece of rubber around the hub axle, thanks @M_V
@edmundro that last bit is probably the advice I needed, thanks for that.
@adroit I got the hubs half a year ago, I planned to ride it in good conditions only.
@dancing james didn't expect to find anyone practicing proctology here
@Skülly I specially bought these bonz expert and miche pistard used, cos I wanted good hubs I couldn't afford, please understand my obsession :)
@Scilly.Suffolk thanks for the time and effort. I'll stick with putting vaseline around them.
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• #17
I specially bought these bonz expert and miche pistard used...
These are both sealed bearing hubs...
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• #18
^ I am lol.
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• #19
but they don't have rubbers around them :) I explained that I'm clueless on the topic. they look exactly like roller skate bearings from the outside and these things suck in sand like a mother$%er
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• #20
Haha, I was actually going to post about how I've had a sealed (cartridge) rear hub and an 'open' (Shinano) front hub on my mtb for the same length of time and the front is running great but I had to change the tears the other day as they'd gotten s bit graunchy.
Guess that proves your point!
I bought a bulk load (10 I think) of bearings off eBay that worked out at about £1 a pop and just chuck new ones in whenever. It's a 5 minute job.
Should be noted that the hubs on my mtb get submerged semi regularly, my Pompino has sealed bearing track hubs with no additional shielding and gets ridden daily and very regularly in rain and has been on the same bearings for over 3 years. The rims will wear out from braking before I need to worry about the bearings.
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• #21
dunno, one of those "sealed hubs" (I'm talking about miche pistard) sounds grainy ( https://monosnap.com/file/x9a9NXuZpvPDY9xzK6WmzPGDd1hGXi )already, without any submerging or anything of that sort and it's a holiday and I don't have any bearing grease lol
forgot what was my point :)
anyways, I guess I'll try to regrease (if I find it) without changing the bearings or just take it to the shop
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• #22
Bearings are cheap, so you might as well replace them anyway.
When I get a second-hand pair of wheels, I'll change them as a matter of course: you don't know what sort of life they've had.
When you've got the hub open, run a ball point pen around the bearing track: you'll be able to feel any pitting more easily than you can see it.
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• #23
Thanks for the detailed advice, I think I'll just take them to the shop -- the bearings should be fine, since the bike rolled perfectly and I thought it must be the chain making the noises, then I took it off and it turned out that the hub is making the grinding sounds, hopefully re-greasing them will do the trick and doing it in the shop will be most likely be cheaper than to buy a tube full of decent bearing grease :) and I only have two adjustable wrenches -- maybe somebody who knows what they're doing could open the hub with just that, but not me
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• #24
Have you asked your lbs if they sell rubber sealings to put around hubs?
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• #25
They probably said
Good grease, well packed and check them regularly and no harm will come from salty water unless you ride it in the sea.
Total bike noob over here.
I'm worried about driving my tarck bike in the wet - I noticed that my MTB has huge rubber sealings around hubs, but my track bike does not - is it possible to buy and install such sealing for track hubs, so the salty water doesn't get in?