Gravel / Gravé / Gnarmac / Groad / ATB

IIRC Canyon calculate geo a bit differently on their gravel bikes, but I could be wrong. Sizes certainly run big though; I'm bang on average height (177cm) and am borderline S/M (that's sizes, not fetish, btw).

Right, yeah, it depends how keen you are to ride fast on the road and what your "fast" is? Are your 650Bs actually a limiter? Just pedal harder :)

Actually since you've mentioned this, what is the fastest 650B road tyre, do you think? Surely there's something smaller than a 47mm Horizon that's slicked up and lightish.

tempting, would have bought if I already didnt have a gravel bike. They are selling out fast.

also classic @skinny cross chain there!

what is the fastest 650B road tyre, do you think? Surely there's something smaller than a 47mm Horizon that's slicked up and lightish.

GP5000s come in 650b narrow

Anti instagram with the unaligned wheels too. Fuxk velominati

tyre ID?

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WTB ranger 2.0

Yeah ranger 2.0. They are okay, id like a mezcal but a 2.1 won't go. The ranger punctured a bit easily.
Need to find something else. Shame the race king is 2.2. It needs a true 50mm tyre.

There you go then, cheers. Anything faster and you should be on a TT bike or racing crits or something anyway.

how tight is it with 2.0?

Front loads. Back is as tight as you'd feel comfortable with. I didn't vernier caliper the 2.0 it might have been a bit wider than 50mm as was on 30mm id rim.

Are your 650Bs actually a limiter? Just pedal harder :)

This is a fair point. Probably makes zero real difference, other on proper hill climbs perhaps.
Currently I use 38/40mm (the specs say both 🤷‍♂️) G-One Speed (effectively slick) having had enough of Gravel King slicks in the same size.

I think I'll save the cash [edit: or buy a pair of Contis if I suddenly decide to ride up a non-virtual Alpe]

I've done 200k audax with 50mm GK SK+ tyres on. It wouldn't be my first choice for a road race but if you're not racing does it matter if a road ride takes a bit longer?

Actually I just had a look because we did the same route on road bikes and I was 45min slower on the gravel bike off a 10W higher NP. 4600kcal vs. 5200kcal on the gravel bike. Definitely a difference (obvs, knobby tyres vs slicks!) but unless you're racing does it matter? It doesn't to me, that's why I favour more durable, heavier tyres until there's a stopwatch and finish line involved.

Slow riding is boring though. May as well walk/get a donkey. Also knobbly tyres are crap at cornering on hard pack/tarmac. Be like Sven, run the fastest tyres you can get away with.

Slow riding is boring though.

Why do you ride off road then?

I don't mind stuff like GK SKs or the Cinturato on the road because they're even tread so you don't get weird shit going on in corners. But I have a road bike so I would normally ride that (with my slower road tyres).

I only road the 200 with the gravel bike because I wanted a shakedown ride before Badlands and I'm glad I did when the tubeless failed with 15k to go.

Why do you ride off road then?

Cos speed is relative to the terrain. 20kph down some tight singletrack feels much faster than 20kph on a Kent road

Some roads in Kent are rougher than most of the gravel featured in this thread

30kph on Duranos feels a lot faster than 0kph pumping up GP5000s ;)

definitely not gonna argue with that!

Don't listen to my anyway. I'm the guy that's too lazy to take his road bike off a KICKR so instead rides 200k on a gravel bike.

lol true say

personally have no issue keeping a high pace up when i'm in kent, no matter the terrain or bike

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The idea has been done; the best one to get is LTDA (in London) guaranteed safety.

The trick to going fast for 60kms round Kent is to have a barbag.