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• #1527
http://speri.dept.shef.ac.uk/2017/07/24/labours-titanic-brexit-nightmare/
TL:DR leave single market, economic crash, real risk of destruction of Labour as people are angry over what they did, more neoliberalism.
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• #1528
Corbyn should have campigned for leave, and allowed the rest of the party to mount a proper capmaign for remain.
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• #1530
Huh, unions here have a history of Xenophobia?
Unite has been very lukewarm in comparison to Unison which is doing way more for immigrants.
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• #1531
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47fqjA8CwGE
Branson in "is lying cunt" shock
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• #1532
Shame it took so long to come to light.
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• #1533
Was that Nick Ferrari? What a vile bloater
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• #1534
his second favourite hobby is cyclist baiting.
he sounds fat.
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• #1535
Him and Jon Gaunt, cut from broadly the same block of lard.
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• #1536
both lbc bronkfonks alumni.
worthless cunts.
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• #1537
Honestly. The tinfoil hat brigade are really out in force here.
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• #1538
Just what could Richard Branson, private healthcare provider and grasping cunt, possibly have to gain by discrediting Jeremy Corbyn just prior to an election?
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• #1539
Rhetorical?
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• #1540
is this a rhetorical question?
I heard nick Ferrari was fat, that makes him a cunt, right? Fucking fat cunts.
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• #1541
Ferraris fatness is the least of his myriad shortcomings.
And he is most definitely a cunt. A fat cunt at that.
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• #1542
State of this fucking shitheap.
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• #1544
An 'Acid Corbynism' event
https://twitter.com/ashcowburn/status/912449218568220672
(Sounds a bit like Jon Hopkins?)
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• #1545
"There were calls for some Jewish groups to be excluded from the party. A paper was handed out supporting the claim by Ken Livingstone, the former mayor of London, of collusion between German Jews and Nazis. A motion to question the truth of the Holocaust was proposed."
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/06/opinion/labour-jeremy-corbym-anti-semitism.html
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• #1546
I'm glad you highlighted that particular passage.
There were calls for some Jewish groups to be excluded from the party
How many calls? from who? what response to those calls were there? Clicking the links in that article take you to the Mail and the Express. A bit more Googling suggests it was one call, by one man whose membership of the party is not clear.A motion to question the truth of the Holocaust was proposed.
A motion? It was a fringe meeting, not the main conference, what 'motion' could that be? Who proposed it, did anyone second it, what discussion was had? Looking in to it, it was, again, one man, the son of an Israeli general, now living in the US, who did not question whether or not the Holocaust happened but defended, as free speech, the right to question it: a position entirely consistent with the US constitution, for example. He does not appear to be a Labour party member either. He compared Israel to Apartheid South Africa; a comparison also made by that well known anti-semite lefty, ex-President Jimmy Carter.It's not, on any level, a great piece by Jacobson. It's hilarious that you chose to quote the passage that best shows why.
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• #1547
who did not question whether or not the Holocaust happened but defended, as free speech, the right to question it: a position entirely consistent with the US constitution, for example
you may have a 'right' to question the holocaust, doesn't mean you should. Ken Loach does this as well. It's insidious.
http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/245953/this-anti-semitic-bbc-interview-perfectly-illustrates-britains-left-wing-anti-semitism-problemI take your point that these were fringe meetings and we don't know the membership status of those involved. I think it's still a problem.
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• #1548
Again, no one in any of the comments referred to in any of the articles or links you have posted, has questioned whether or not the Holocaust happened. Though the BBC reporter in the Loach story repeats that misrepresentation. You might also call that 'insidious'.
To say that Labour, rather than a few of its members and rather than the society from which its members, and the members of all political parties, are drawn, has a problem with anti-semitism, needs better evidence than shown so far. -
• #1549
A good question to ask would be; is a member of the Labour Party more or less likely to be an antisemite than a member of the general population. Id guess less.
I have no doubt that some antisemites are trying to find a home in the labour party but the scale of the problem is unclear and they do not seem to be successful. As highlighted by the amount of negative attention attempts receive.
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• #1550
Given the outright racism expressed by kippers and cons I'd posit the problem in the Labour Party is much smaller than in the other parties.
Is some of this not the same as the solution to the Swiss issue? Which was IIRC solved by forcing Swiss jobs to be advertised only in Switzerland for a period, before they could be advertised elsewhere? Anyone could apply for them, but the chances of someone not in Switzerland finding the advert was seen as being low.
It sounds like this may be what's being advocated.