Brew Cafe, road rage owner

"If cyclists behaved, maybe we'd stop having a go at 'em". It's such a breathtakingly stupid argument, it's just beyond logic, and worryingly seeks to create the assumption that everyone thinks this way about a particular group of fellow citizens.
I got called a wanker by a ped the other day, essentially for being present on the road. I think I held her up from crossing the road for a good two seconds as I went by. Another time a car pulled out on me from a side road, knocked me off and while I'm sat in the road regathering my senses, some other car stops and the driver leans out and said "serves you right".
"If cyclists did not exist, maybe we'd stop having a go at 'em"

Rod Liddle gets a cock punch for the use of 'simples', let alone the rest of the usual right-wing, reactionary rhetoric I think the car companies pay the Tory rags to whip up anti-cycling feeling.

I do think that headline illustrates the general attitude: that cyclists should behave and then they won't be threatened by car drivers, which fundamentally places cyclists below drivers in a theoretical road hierarchy. The article essentially says cyclists should be seen and not heard, that we should know are place and doff our cap at drivers, who by virtue of the £200 plus VAT they pay a month to drive around their murderous, pollutant-spewing cars are better than us, have more rights than us. It's the re-enforcement of cyclists as others, a sub-class, a lesser form of human, and it makes me fucking sick.

Imagine what thew world would be like if we had never dug out that disgusting substance oil, and invented the internal combustion engine. Imagine if we had instead developed other, better energies, so the environment was healthier, the polar bears safe, the geo-political in the Middle East not so hideously unstable. What a wonderful fucking world that would, and one where cyclist were not fundamentally treated as an under-class, as a sub-human. And they wonder why we get angry, why we get militant, because cu7nts like Rod Liddle get platforms like that to talk utter crap, which in turns gives Mr White Van Man and Mr Taxi Driver and Mr Butcher-in-fetish-gear the endorsement they need to go an act even more aggressively towards fellow road users.

Cunts, divisive, ignorant bollocks like that really boils my piss, made worse knowing that these columnists are saying these things to promote themselves and their worthless personalities.

"Imagine what thew world would be like if we had never dug out that disgusting substance oil"

We'd all have squeaky rusty chains!

I would kindly offer my 'developed other, better energies' as an answer to that point, m'lud

Liddle, Rod

We could use whale oil instead?

There's Oil inside Welsh people? Gadzooks, I learn so much today!

Apart from the polluting aspect, there's nothing fundamentally wrong with cars - I'm fairly sure a lot of us here have them and drive them. What's wrong is the attitude people have whilst using them, or how they use them. And the infrastructure. That's wrongest.

It's definitely the attitude that is the issue, again and again in the Mail article comments section is the 'they appear from nowhere', 'had a near miss...' Etc etc attitude.
In 7yrs of driving trucks in London I've had exactly 1 near miss with a cyclist ever. At that was a member of this very parish.
In those situations I suspect it's a lack of attentiveness or not bothering to check blind spots before manoeuvring in slow traffic rather than cyclists magically appearing in a puff of smoke!

Obvs doesn't cover everything but it's one aspect that always jumps out at me in these stories..

Shit, anyone can make a mistake, we're human and fallible. Driving aggressively and habitually treating other people with a lack of respect (at best) and failing to be observant is something else; yet that's the situation we have with a large proportion of motorists. Yes, cyclists are the same... but a 70kg person riding a 10kg machine at 20mph is not the same as a 1500kg metal box steered by a lunatic at 30mph.

Just for the sake of accuracy them Land Rovers weigh more like 2500kg.

At 72kg and on my 15kg town bike I reckon I could take on a 1500kg supermini.

i faceplanted in front of a bus and an obese white van man nearly had a hernia laughing, i got last laugh cos he's obese and probably can only see his penis if he lifts his belly in front of a mirror
journos writing in knee jerk papers against cyclists after after a situ like ''Master Bater John ... '' is really quite poor work,not offering any incisive views.
There really seems to be a growing "them and us" culture on roads, with cunts like liddle contributing to the 'conflict'

bike i faceplanted was a giant boulder with a bad drive issue btw

What a wonderful fucking world that would, and one where cyclist were not fundamentally treated as an under-class, as a sub-human

sounds like The Netherlands imho

LOL the drivers son goes to my school

When is parents' evening?

Actually, you might be a student rather than a teacher. If so print hundreds of reflectocock pics and pin them up round school.

*student, fuck knows when it is, and I don't know what a reflectocock is, sounds like spraying a cock on the back of his car with volvo life paint to he never knows its there only the preceding drivers

The reflectocock in question. Silly bugger made the mistake of posting his drug and rage-shrivelled little sausage online for all to see...

The state of his feet disgust me more though.

Silly bugger made the mistake of posting his drug and rage-shrivelled little sausage online for all to see...

he may have been the obese van driver!

sounds like spraying a cock on the back of his car with volvo life paint

Just occured to me that 75.8kg is pretty sturdy for someone so wee.
I'm 10kg less, a normal height and been feeling rather portly myself of late.
Def time for Mr Wells to get on the bike....

Hang on a minute, I've only just read that tweet properly. So he owns a chain of successful cafes, has a house worth a reported £3 million furnished with fine furniture, a flashy car, a fancy leather jacket, and god knows what else... And this chump and his son only have one pair of trainers between them!?

Hang on a minute, I've only just read that tweet properly. So he owns a chain of successful cafes, has a house worth a reported £3 million furnished with fine furniture, a flashy car, a fancy leather jacket, and a lilliputian's penis ....And this chump and his son only have one pair of trainers between them!?

ftfy!

Reports since say it's pleather.