Cyclists stay back! stickers

i'd rather have lorry drivers look where the fuck they are going and stop driving over us, tbh

i'd rather have lorry drivers look where the fuck they are going and stop driving over us, tbh

They do look where they are going.

#notALLlorrydrivers

They do look where they are going.

Operation Safeway found that a third of the HGVs stopped were breaking the law in some way. Fourteen vehicles were considered so dangerous they were taken straight off the road.

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and do you not think that sticker would be more useful in the drivers cab?

It would be useful in the drivers cab as well.

Obvious comment, but the above is not necessary prohibited.

^^^ Indeed, a sticker on the back of a HGV is going to do nothing to protect a cyclist that is left hooked by said HGV. In this case the cyclist never even sees the back of the HGV, just the front, side and underneath.

But, at the other end of the spectrum (of fault/blame), there are also cyclists who believe it is their divine right to continue straight on along a road unimpeded even if that means attempting to undertake HGVs that have already started turning left.

They do look where they are going.

I think that was the point being made. They (and all other road users) need to look elsewhere too, not just where they are going.

Obvious comment, but the above is not necessary prohibited.

Should you be driving a truck in such a way that you can't stop?

Had the junction not had an advanced stop would you feel it was "ok" to be a trucks length into the junction?

ASL thread >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

They do look where they are going.

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Yeah they are really starting to piss me off these stickers. They seem to be randomly placed on the back of most vans too nowadays, not even on the left. I don't get what they are supposed to achieve.
Might get a big placard attached to the bike that says 'Van drivers stay back'

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No sticker on the back, rookie mistake.

Yeah they are really starting to piss me off these stickers. They seem to be randomly placed on the back of most vans too nowadays, not even on the left. I don't get what they are supposed to achieve.
Might get a big placard attached to the bike that says 'Van drivers stay back'

I think there is a link to where you can get these ...here
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog/2014/jun/12/the-madness-of-stay-back-cyclist-stickers#start-of-comments

sorry - here ...http://www.ctc.org.uk/news/cycling-and-safety-groups-restate-objections-to-tfl-sticker-on-vans-and-buses

Not for me, fighting "Cyclists Stay Back" stickers by making some "Van Drivers Stay Back" equivalents doesn't seem very wise to me.

My guess is that they'll just invite dickhead van drivers to give you a nice punishment pass.

But we get punishment passes from vehicles with cyclist stay back stickers already.

Unrelated to stickers but this seems to be where HGVs are currently being discussed (and I can't find the thread where this was discussed):

A while ago there was an announcement about all trucks to be made safer including side skirts, etc. Is there any update on when this is actually going to happen, start to be enforced?

^^True, but the ideal is to fight the attitude that is leading to the proliferation of these stickers without escalating the conflict.

I like the "Cyclists Stay Awesome" stickers as it is a positive message at heart and clearly mocks the "Stay Back" stickers, rather than looking like an attack on their users.

^ This.

A while ago there was an announcement about all trucks to be made safer including side skirts, etc. Is there any update on when this is actually going to happen, start to be enforced?

TfL with the freight industry has launched Construction Logistics and Cyclist Safety (CLOCS) project. https://www.tfl.gov.uk/info-for/freight/safety-and-the-environment/improving-construction-safety

meanwhile the DfT is angling to increase the speed limit of HGVs on single carriage roads from 40mph to... something faster, not quite sure what yet. The reasoning being some horseshit about 'people speeding up to overtake slow lorries thereby creating danger' and 'most HGVs break the speed limit anyway so, why the fuck not, lol!'

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/examining-the-speed-limit-for-heavy-goods-vehicles-over-7-5-tonnes-on-single-carriageway-roads

by that logic anyone on a bike should be able to rlj because hey - they all do it, right?

If I'm hit by an HGV doing 40, I think I'm pretty much dead. Should I care if they're allowed to do 50 ?