Custom Stainless Road Bike

Isn't an ISP going to be a PITA to fly with?

Custom Alan BikeBox. Surprisingly affordable. Compared to an standard one anyway, which is excruciatingly expensive. And doesn't fit through the oversize luggage scanner at Venice Marco Polo airport.

Ironic, slightly anyway, that rim brakes suggest that tubs should be used if running carbon rims, whereas discs would allow clinchers.

+1. It's taken two sets of carbon clinchers for me to finally reach this conclusion. Allowing the safe and worry-free use of carbon clinchers is one of, if not the, best reasons for discs on a road bike IMHO. And having spent a week of manic brake pulsing on carbon clinchers, I reckon that's a good thing.

Surely carbon rims with alu braking surface offer the best of both world?

Take the bus or box up a MTB (without an ISP)?

Am I Colombo?

Obviously not.

That box takes ISP.

Surely carbon rims with alu braking surface offer the best of both world?

No

Well I am pretty sure I'll go for tubs anyway so rim brakes should be fine, no? Unless I'm misunderstanding.

No

How come? it would allowed the alu to be made thinner when wrapped with carbon.

Shimano's new C50 come to mind as a bombproof wheels.

You are still trying to engineer your way around a compromise.

If you look at every other form of wheeled transport the rim has the job of holding the tyre in place and does that, whilst the brake disc or drum is in charge of supplying a kinetic energy to heat transfer process.

I.e. Each part can be designed to be ideal for one thing, rather than a dual role.

Are multitools more efficient and easier to use than separate Allen keys and a chain tool?

Will the brake cabling be internal as well?

Gloss blacked out Enve finishing kit would look nice.

And an isp can look great if done right

That box takes ISP.

You just have to saw it off and throw it in after the bike.

You could use an S&S coupler to attach the ISP to the seat tube.

You are still trying to engineer your way around a compromise.

Soz

You could use an S&S coupler to attach the ISP to the seat tube.

Very good.

Surely carbon rims with alu braking surface offer the best of both world?

No

Dammit if you assumed you wanted a) clinchers, and b) rim brakes, would your answer change?

If you want (a) clinchers and (b) rim brakes and (c) deep rims and you don't want all-carbon clinchers then I'm not sure you have a lot of choice other than to go for an ali/carbon hybrid rim.

Whys this still a conversation? Jake said he was probs going to go tubs

I don't think that it's been mentioned that rim brakes don't perform that well with carbon rims, even tubs. I have carbon tubs on my road bike w / rim brakes, and they're fine, but eat through swissstops very quickly and don't inspire much confidence outside their optimum conditions (i.e. bone dry).

He's getting custom xcr. I'd guess he's going to sort himself out with a couple of sets of wheels!

In other news probably better nuke this thread as soon as the project starts?

Jake what's the current build spec?

Has the builder Jake spoken about timeline?

Very keen to hear what Scherrit said about your fit.

Jake what's the current build spec?

Has the builder Jake spoken about timeline?

Do you mean componentry? I've written it somewhere. Ultegra Di2, Enve forks obviously, tubs of some sorts. It will probably take four months from it's start date, but jake still has a few frames to build before he gets to mine.

Very keen to hear what Scherrit said about your fit.

In what respect? Obviously I can tell you more, but he was surprised at how well I'd set my own cleats up, but still made some small adjustments and also added a shim to each shoe to raise my heels by 1 degree. Said I need a set back seat post, ideally, as he moved my saddle back quite far back so the clamp is a bit close to the front of the rails. He also moved my seat post up a bit, so with the saddle move my stack is now about 10mm higher. He also tilted my bars up slightly, as well as moving my left good slightly closer to my torso. He said in an ideal world my TT would be 10mm shorter and my stem 10mm longer for better handling, but all in all my frame fitted well, he said. Then there were the results for all of the flexibility, strength tests etc that I can't be bothered to write about. I need to stretch, go to physio about a previous back injury and to also take up yoga.

The fit has made a huge difference.

Sorry for any typos. On phone.

He was surprised at how well I'd set my own cleats up, but still made some small adjustments and also added a shim to each shoe to raise my heels by 1 degree.

Good going, when I learn about cleat fitting, I was a little surprised that it's easier than I thought, the only difficulty is finding the bone to aligned the cleat.

Said I need a set back seat post, ideally, as he moved my saddle back quite far back so the clamp is a bit close to the front of the rails.

Not surprising considering that the Surly's seat angle make in-line a bit redundant.

He said in an ideal world my TT would be 1CM shorter and my stem 10MM longer for better handling, but all in all my frame fitted well, he said.

Basically a 53cm TT frame (or 52cm with classic drop), he's not wrong, as I notice a world of a difference being able to climb and descent confidently with having more weight on the front than rear.

In what respect?

Exactly the above, just need to read other's experience of the fitting process.