Custom Stainless Road Bike

Jake, it's a performance bike, not a touring/audax bike, go crazy on it.

Road performance bicycle are designed to be hung up a lots during winter, required a lots of maintenance, and careful choice of outfit just to be ridden for several hours a day.

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You speak truth scoble.

DA9000 di2.

But then again, you might do a sumo and try to put mudguard on it just so he can ride to work when he can.

Riding to work is pretty much all sumo does on it, no?

JB why are you going down the custom route? Could you not find an OTP that fits/suits? Or are you just going custom because it's bang on trend and because you can (in which case fair enough)?

Oh and this all over!

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I can only hope that I'll be able to get a shiny custom frame one day.

Perhaps when I'm as old as JB.

Wait, wtf is going on here?

With hindsight I wish I'd bought a custom bike before I bought a flat so you are probably doing it the right way round :/

But then again, you might do a sumo and try to put mudguard on it just so he can ride to work when he can.

what do you mean try?

To be honest fox - I just want to do it whilst I can afford it :-)

you gonna take to the US with you?

The question is do you want to be an early adopter or not? prepared to spend even more money in the future for better and more reliable components?

The good thing about electric is that the early adoption phase has already passed. You're now in the 2g, and by most accounts 1g was pretty much on point. Even without a long wait time it's still goin to be a while before you actually put the group on. So prices may come down more or there may be another option.

This is also one of the reasons I wouldn't go for discs. 1g has only jus really come out and it looks like it's still got a way to go.

Not entirely, only hydraulic is still in the first generation phrase whether mechanical have already been proven well in the last couple of years.

I was discussing that very thing this morning- bear in mind that the Shimano x785 system is essentially their XT kit from their MTB line, so not exactly a first pass.

Both true. But for me its the whole package - frames, wheels, components, etc. I just think that now is not the time to jump in unless you're very certain of how you think you will benefit. In 1-2yrs, sure.

One of the other points I was going to make is that as it's steel converting to/from cable/electric is a fairly easy fix. Whereas even though you can make mods to switch to disc there are a lot more considerations for the F&F.

So all in all as the main benefit (to me at least) of discs is the all weather application it doesn't seem worth it for a nice road bike.

One of the other points I was going to make is that as it's steel converting to/from cable/electric is a fairly easy fix.

How exactly?

Well if you've got cables you can just use the current shimano packs like dammit has with his systemsix.

If you have internal electric cable routing you just braze on cable bosses or adapt the holes. If you made sure your original setup considers that coverson back to cables may be possible, then that fix should be even easier.

If you have internal electric cable routing you just braze on cable bosses or adapt the wholes.

Thats not easy. It's easy compared to building a whole new frame.

Well then you're into defining what "easy" and "hard" mean. My point was that designing discs in or out impacts on the fundamental design. Adding or removing some bosses doesn't*.

*unless as I suggested you chose to design in a duel option.

I sort of rate you for going with a new frame builder.. not something I could do. If I was going down this route I would only give my money to someone who had built more than 50 frames - especially if you're choosing a tricky material like stainless.

Well this is what I need to speak to him about... If he made a mistake that meant more materials had to be purchased, I want the assurance that I'd not have to pay for them and things like that.

The good thing about electric is that the early adoption phase has already passed. You're now in the 2g, and by most accounts 1g was pretty much on point. Even without a long wait time it's still goin to be a while before you actually put the group on. So prices may come down more or there may be another option.

This is also one of the reasons I wouldn't go for discs. 1g has only jus really come out and it looks like it's still got a way to go.

However, what's going to change with discs? The hub mountings might change, but that doesn't alter the frame. There seems precious little reason for road frames to depart from the well-established ISO and PM fixings used on mountain bikes, and I can't see hydraulic hoses changing radically, if at all. In that case, while the kit may become better, the way you bolt it to the frame and the hose routing won't change, so if you decide to go discs rather than calipers I can't see any reason not to do so now, provided you're prepared to accept that at some point down the line you may want better and newer kit. And let's face it, there's a pretty strong chance of that happening anyway, isn't there?

Yarp, only choice you have to make is whether you go for 135mm rear spacing (which I did) or 130.

But braze-on for centerpull brakes, job done.

In 1948, yes.

Isn't the new Shimano brakes design are centerpull?

Dunno, who cares?

Disc brakes are the future.

I'm keeping the CdF for that reason, just gotta change the frame and brakeset (TRP Hylex).