Pelizzoli Leggenda, "No more compromises"

I think the quantec is about 395mm. don't get that!

get the confirmation by the german distributor: "appr. 400mm"

that means i have to decide if i want to invest appr. 550€ for the enve fork or buy a standard carbon fork and use normal brakes.

Orlowski "No more compromises"

ahem

All this talk of building a frame to suit a fork seems a bit odd to me. Head angle, fork length, wheel size and rake will all affect the trail too, which will have a marked effect on handling.
It seems odd to get a full custom "no compromises" frame, then start discussing various compromises so the fork looks nice. My 2p...

i knew that this would coming.

the phrase "no more compromises" refers more to the geometry and how it should look like. i'm not a poor student, but nearly 550euros only for the fork is a bit too much.

i thought that there is probably adisc version of an alpina track fork on the market, but there isn't one. thus i have to think about the idea of having a disc fork again.

All this talk of building a frame to suit a fork seems a bit odd to me. Head angle, fork length, wheel size and rake will all affect the trail too, which will have a marked effect on handling.
It seems odd to get a full custom "no compromises" frame, then start discussing various compromises so the fork looks nice. My 2p...

I don't know, it seems like a sensible place to start to me. A metal frame is a collection of tubes that can effectively be joined any which way. A carbon fork isn't.

If the requirements for the fork weren't so specific - i.e. a carbon disc fork - then you'd just work on the basis of whatever is the most common road fork, and pick from one of the many forks available that best suits.

You're using the builder's knowledge and expertise so that you can have exactly what you in terms of features and ride characteristics.

get it build to suit a standard geometry tapered road fork.
start with a cheapish normal fork. and in a few years time there will probably be plenty enve copies to choose from.
that's not a compromise that's just distributing expenses over time.

What is the pressing need for a disc brake? It will also limit your choice of hubs of course. I understand that there is a performance advantage, but do you reckon that you will be riding in wet / muddy conditions enough to make it worthwhile?

no rim wear

looks rad

future proofing

no rim wear

looks rad

actually opens you up to a whole new world of hubs as well. Eingang could even run matching front and rears, buy 2 disc front hubs and run the rear with a bolt on cog and swap out axle.

Yeah but tiny rotors like on that barclays blue thing above look shite ATMO.

Custom titanium fork ?

have a look http://whiskyparts.co/catalog/forks maybe

thx, already checked them. they also have a minimum of 45mm rake and axle to crown is 396mm like all the cross forks. the market for straight road disc forks is really new, maybe i should postpone my idea.

however, i'm currently waiting for a first reply from jacek, seems like he is on vacation.

Eingang could even run matching front and rears, buy 2 disc front hubs and run the rear with a bolt on cog and swap out axle.

Yeah this is what I'm doing, using a pair of black Shimano front disc hubs.

Adding to the fork discussion; I'll more than likely be copying Zdrenka and going for the Quantec.

Checked here?
any tubing
any axle to crown
any rake
( your bank )
http://www.levacon.com/index.html

Found these as well, not framebuilders I think.
http://www.bikeselection.fr/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=302

i want a carbon fork, not steel, titan or alu.

will go for a normal road brake, maybe next year the market for straight road disc forks is offering more models in different price ranges.

additionally i asked pelizzoli how much a frame+fork with my ideas would cost: 1000euros + 60euros for shipping (pelizzoli is using columbus altec tubes, orlowski is based on columbus airplane tubes)

How does the price compaire to Orlowski? Sorry if i have missed that.

The fork decision makes sense, I don't know if a CX fork would make much sense on this.

i have asked him back in march this year with a similar idea and the price was appr. 700 euros without the fork. i do not know how much the new idea would cost as he is currently on vacation.

I still think for this bike you should use steel...

i already have a orlowski steel bike

The SSCX is very different to this concept.

Either high end steel or ti.

Strong, light, repairable, good ride... For a "street" fixed won't the oversize aero alu tubing be excessively stiff? and thin walls be prone to being damaged?

i want alu for this bike. i never ridden ti before and i think there is plenty of time in my life left for a ti bike.

i'm also not a hardcore brakeless fixed skidding kid, so alu is fine, stiff and light.

Im sure I read somewhere that pelizzoli also do custom forks (carbon too), did you try asking if they would make just a fork?

Edit: This blog post of theirs is what gives me the idea they are also doing custom carbon parts, not sure if they are manufacturing it themselves though (probably still made by someone in taiwan)

i get the pricelist from them and they are also offering carbon frames (road+track) starting at 2.2k euros, but not sure about custom forks. i think they can do everything or organise it if i would pay it.

if i decide to let it build buy pelizzoli i will go for this fork

that is one ugly fork