My Talbot

You can always get the Minimoto to keep up with the NAHBS theme of your bike, otherwise the cheap Shimano mini-v will do the job.

That Paul brake is fugly.

But it comes in rad colours.

How rad?

rad rad

did a 75 mile group ride yesterday,

anyone who says fat tyres slow you down at 'club' level are talking rubbish

Really? I thought the massive rolling resistant would be too much to keep up at club pace.

Hahaha self troll is obvious

The vast drag of the tyres was probably offset by the aerodynamic advantage of being dressed in ladies Rapha

No ladies rapha was worn on this trip

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ap1o1Uz7EWgQdG5xa3JTa1lkczd3aTNyWEp0cm5Tbnc&usp=drive_web#gid=0

Right, I think I've got all these weights correct, and excluding the frame that comes to 6.5kg, but the bike currently weights 9.3kg, and I dont think an 853 frame is 2.8kg?

What have I got wrong? I'd like to get it down from 9.3 to 8.5 or less but struggling with how thats going to be possible.

Unless its my luggage scale thats out

Should clarify, the weight loss would be putting it into 'roadie', so obviously theres at least 300 grams in tyre savings, I need a lighter saddle for sure, I'm switching to CX9's and getting rid of the hangers which will lose ~50g but still not getting close to 8.5

Main things jumping out are seatpost, easy 100gram loss there if you go carbon; saddle, 400grams?! most moderns can help lose another 200; pedals, get some 105's and then add ti-spindles.com spindles; garmin mount, search tillquist mount, you can get a very flashy nice and light, 9 gram one from him.

then just search for bargains on ebay etc for groupset parts

Cable and housing, rims tape, inner tube, bar tape etc.

Advice - just forget about it and enjoy the bike, if you're serious, upgrade the tyres to a lighter better one with lighter butyl inner tube.

Or your long term goal could be to put Pacenti SL-23, or the HED Ardennes Plus.

Are you relying on manufacturers quoted weights? Most of them are 'optimistic' I'd say.

A frame of your size in 853 should weigh about 1800g with paint - BUT you did go for a massive headtube - which - adds a lot of weight (The bigger the headtube - the thicker the walls need to be - to avoid the 'coke can effect') so maybe 1900g?

I can tell you now, there is no way your wheelset weighs 1600g - It will be more like 1800g (Unless you used superlight spokes and alloy nips?)

^^ Like Ed said, You have a great all-round bombproof bike, with sensible components. Any weight saving you make (aside the tyres) will not be felt riding. Once you go gram-hunting you'll end up frustrated with the best parts of your bike! (The frame and the wheels). Ride and Smile

Yeah theyre manufacturer weights, it needs a good clean after an accidental cross ride last week so maybe i'll do some weighing

wheelset inc tyres, tubes, tape and cassette is a whopping 3.05kg

saddle+seatpost is 510g so not as heavy as first through, so yeah wheels is definitely the biggest loser.

Surely new road orientated wheelset and tyres are what you need then?

for sure

Will you be ok with non-narrow rims? If so Kinlin XR200 20/24 Sapim CX rays on BHS hubs is the lightest alu clincher combination I can think of .. And then Ultremo ZX 25/28mm cant be bothered with math but that works out 1800-something grams

What were your old wheels? Hope to Archetype?

current hope to archetype yeah

I've decided on doing nothing.

When i'm actually riding it I have no desires to change anything, only when I'm at home looking at it do i wanna change things, think I just need a new project

#n+1

^ haha I've got that too ;d

Good decision Rogan.