Social ride etiquette

For reference reposted here

Social ride guidance

1. Agree how the ride is to be run, including riding speed, RLJ policy, with all before starting so people's expectations are managed

2. Allocate leader and sweeper roles. Leader shares mobile phone number with all. For rural longer rides leader has everyones mobile

3. Make new faces welcome

4. Route planning-Often taking up a whole (bus) lane on an A road is less risky and more efficient that a twisty back road cycle route (though perhaps not as pleasant an environment)

5. Slowest riders dictate the pace so can be encouraged to ride near the front

6. All riders to ensure they are aware of riders behind. If you lose sight of the rider(s) behind slow down or pull in to regroup. Shout out any issues to ensure riders in front slow or pull over

7. Avoid filtering through traffic, front riders stop behind drivers at lights and move through lights in the traffic stream

8. Consider politely preventing drivers from passing until there is room for them to clear the whole group. (Be sensible with this most drivers will appreciate the communication and hang back, if a driver is clearly irate, get everyone to move left to let them pass). Agree whether or not you plan to use 'roadie' conventions such as shouting 'car back ' or 'clear' and explain these to all

9. When turning at T-junctions It is often better to cork them requesting drivers give up on their right of way to keep the group together

10. Good practice for rear riders to move (right) before front riders when changing lane to claim the space and prevent anyone overtaking as the group move over

You wanted to replaced "car back" with "driver behind" to make it more humanises, yet call new members "noobs"?

Can't you just get a load of shit cyclists cycle trainers to ride around in the middle of the road 'commanding the space' and not annoying other road users so that the group never has to break a pedal stroke?

That is the point of this thread Señor

Good guidance

3 Leaders and others tell noobs your name.
9 Nominate someone experienced to do this, one of the rare occasions a hi viz vest actually works. Say thank you to anyone held up.
10 rear rider to move right when the leaders signals
(the leader does this well before she normally would when riding solo)

10 rear rider to move right when the leaders signals
(the leader does this well before she normally would when riding solo)

That remind me - when Leader signal (raise arm vertically before slowly dropping to the left/right), other should signal as well.

Woah cycle trainers ^ ^^!
This is meant to be more light touch information for anyone on the ride.
hi-viz unnecesary
Not instruction on snaking.

They decided they don't felt welcome when they were blanked at when one of them got a puncture, like bothwell's experience, not a single fuck was given.

Send me a full body shot and I'll look out for them

Wait at lights, bunch up regularly, share beers, etc

would be nice to keep the conversations together at least for a while - most people go on more than one type of ride and different times, and part of the interesting part of this thread is thinking about the differences.

Agreed.
I also think that the sticky thread on the Rides forum should be called **Ride etiquette **and cover all types of rides. So more discussion to be had.

I am interested the dynamic of fast rides (never having done one). I suppose the differences will depend on the degree of risk the riders are prepared to tolerate.

until you get Cancellara's 2010 bike you'll never witness the dynamics of a fast ride skydancer ;-)

So what tips would you suggest for fast rude etiquette Faustino?

So what tips would you suggest for** fast rude etiquette **Faustino?

That would be the dos and don'ts of a quickie, would it?

Posted in rides forum
I will ask mods for this to be sticky:
http://www.lfgss.com/thread105948.html#post3571665

Not sure if its been covered already but after the conversation about positioning of slower riders I think it would be a good idea to indicate the intended ride pace, maybe put a system in that's easy to understand. MA3K's rides are good like that.

'Sunday afternoon beer pace' was easy to understand.

If we did that and everyone knew what each was then nobody would accidentally show up to a ride too fast for them to be comfortable.

With this system in we'd probably have less people zooming off breaking up the group and getting lost/dropping people.

'Sunday afternoon beer pace' was easy to understand.

What about Sunday morning hangover pace? or Tuesday evening brisk commute? maybe the Friday morning coffee pace?

I'm a bit late to the party here but there was some discussion of backstops earlier and talk of the people most suited to this not wanting to ride at the back. That's probably because it's actually a pretty hard job:
You need to be confident in the route if the group splinters so you can guide the group back to the front lot when they realise they've dropped you.
You have to ride to someone else's pace, which especially on a FG can be more tiring than finding a good rhythm and plugging along in someone's slipstream.
You have to be prepared to give someone your wheel if they're in need of a break from the wind.
If you're not sticking religiously to the back then you have to keep track of those people you pass (e.g. on a climb) and make sure they re-pass you again before you hammer off into the sunset, or let the group know there are still more off the back if you catch them at a stop.

I've only done the job once and it made the ride significantly harder. Maybe that's because I've only done the job once, but perhaps goes some way to explaining why people are reluctant to do it?