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I got in just in time then ;-)

You did indeed.

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag153/talbotframeworks/DSC_9927_zpsfd3b07bf.jpg

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag153/talbotframeworks/DSC_9918_zpsb9f647d2.jpg

Who did the paint, please?

Looks like your Dave Marsh skully.

Skully, PM me and I will tell all.

Fuck me those are nice frames. I really hope this works out in the long term for you man.

Looks like your Dave Marsh skully.

Yates
As I was just saying in Bikeporn: I only wish it looked as good.

Skully, PM me and I will tell all.

Yep, if you want to keep it quiet!

These frames and builds are stunning but the price...too :O

I know, fantastic work for the money!

Paintwork by the man-legend that is Mario Vaz.

I like the way the first photo only hints at the fade, and then scrolling down half way through the second: 'is it? is it...? OOooh that's nice.'

That frame is absolutely ridiculous, Matt. Amazing!

Coldharbour, if your ever doing any frame building tasters or are happy for someone to just come and watch please let me know! Stunning work.

I've been naughty, my deposits down

Yates
As I was just saying in Bikeporn: I only wish it looked as good.

Yep, if you want to keep it quiet!

Yeahyeah thats the one..
hahaa

Hi guys, I asked about a BB shell re-face on Facebook a couple of weeks ago, am I ok to bring it in tomorrow afternoon?
Cheers

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag153/talbotframeworks/DSC_0625_zpsaf9392f6.jpg

Hey coldharbour (love the show bikes). When I have the money...

What's the reason for the sloping top tube? I'm sure it's a geometric decision but how does it affect the bike?

longer head tube, which was the extended, then the customer added spacer and a + deg stem...

I wonder if they've considered simply stretching.

if you look at the TF facebook its pre fitting, so the customers not tried it yet, set it up for himself yet, steerer hasnt been cut etc.

But why would you set a touring bike up with a road racing position? The bars are already lower than the saddle.

longer head tube, which was the extended, then the customer added spacer and a + deg stem...

I wonder if they've considered simply stretching.

Oh, I didn't realise you knew the rider and what their body is like. I also didn't realise that you were a bike fitter nowadays...?

Hey coldharbour (love the show bikes). When I have the money...

What's the reason for the sloping top tube? I'm sure it's a geometric decision but how does it affect the bike?

Thanks doppelkorn, hopefully I will be here for a while, so when you do have some reddies, give me a shout.

The customer wanted a decent amount of stand over height, as the bike is going to be used for touring every couple of months and will be fully loaded when it is, so he if he needs to put his feet down, he doesn't want to take his genitals off in the process.
If it had used a parallel TT with another stand over height, to have got the bars in the right place would have involved either a massive HT, massive amount of steerer left on the fork, or a very silly stem, none of which are very desirable.
A beneficial, if slight added benefit is that it stiffens up the frame to any lateral load applied to the frame, which can be problematic if you are carrying a large amount of weight in your panniers, while giving some vertical compliance from having a larger amount of exposed seat post.
Therefore, you could say.............
"Talbot Frameworks - Laterally stiff, yet vertically compliant ©" (yawn....)|

As far as the spacers are concerned, as the bike hasn't been fitted for the customer, I don't cut the steerer, as I don't particularly want to have to add a new steerer if I cut it too short.

As far as the bars being too low in relation to the seat post, that wasn't what the frame was designed to do, the customer is a roady by trade, and wants something to take everything he wants to carry, but would normally do up to 100 miles per day, so having the ability to get into a (ever so) slightly more aggressive position than on a more traditional tourer was deemed to be beneficial, although, to be fair it is not really that controversial a design, and I am far from the first person to do it.

The only thing I would say is that the front wheel has turned slightly towards the camera, which has given the appearance of a slightly shorter stem than it actually is.

I think the position looks pretty comfy, bars are higher in relation to saddle than on my road bike which is set up for comfortable distance riding. not sure I like the bars themselves but clearly owners preference, also on such a bike in these times I think i'd go down the disc route.

Lovely build/s none the less. Wish I had a spare £853!