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"Christopher Snelling, of the Freight Transport Association backed the plans, particularly the increased use of segregated cycle lanes.
He added that the more people use bikes instead of cars, the more space that will be left on the roads for freight vehicles."HAHA Lorry Drivers VS Car Drivers.... round 1!
Do these motorist group people not realize more bikes is less traffic jams to sit in? Same for better public transport, get those annoying other people of the road ;)
The gentle way of not taking space away from cars doesn't work. CTC did some work on this, only way to get people to walk/cycle is to give them space, which means you need to take road/parking space if there isn't anything else.
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It raises cycle specific money to about 3% of TFL's budget I think. Which was announced last week or something. Currently 3% of journeys in London are by bike for context.
Nah they wanted another £35m /year to make it 3%.
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It raises cycle specific money to about 3% of TFL's budget I think. Which was announced last week or something. Currently 3% of journeys in London are by bike for context.
That isn't asprational or planning for growth but playing catch up.
It should be more like 20‰.And of course the FTA like the plan as it gets cyclists out I the way of lorries. If those driver orgs people gave the proposal more thought they'd love the idea of all this segregaton its what people who don't cycle but drive always say they want
as I said smoothing traffic flow.Once these crap cycle lane are built cyclsts won't be tolerated on the roads. (Like in Denmark)
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Heh, the concept of a 'motorist group' terrifies me.
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Not sure I support cycle lanes, I support everyone sharing the road and looking out for each other. Fackin' hippy!
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Boris writes:-
I will more than double London’s cycling budget – to a total of almost £400m over the next three years, two-and-a-half times more than previously planned. In 2015, we will be spending £145m a year on cycling, or roughly £18 a head, up with the best in Germany and almost on a par with the Netherlands.
Over the next 10 years, cycle spending will total £913m, more than treble the previously-planned levels. There will be particularly dramatic increases in spending earmarked for Outer London. I will change how I spend our money to focus far more heavily on serious, meaningful improvements to routes and unctions. I have appointed a Cycling Commissioner, who has helped draw up these policies, to drive them forward and win support for them from the other bodies whose backing we need.
£145 a year is about 2% of TfL budget, equivalent to the current mode share of cycling 2% of trips in London.
BUT cycling is growing and due to double in 10 years then the rest of the money is spread thinly over the next 7 years of the business plan. -
So what really is the Westway plan? I scanned the document but it didn't leap out.
It is in section II page 11.
http://www.london.gov.uk/sites/default/files/Cycling%20Vision%20GLA%20template%20FINAL.pdf -
Westway will be 2.3 miles of disconnected cycle route in the sky, it only makes sense if there are really good connection routes to the White City / Scrubs area.
I have ridden hardshoulder cycle routes in Sydney, it suits the head down mamil types but I wouldn't call it joyful cycling.
Westway has huge symbolic value, highlighting the decline in car use. (down 22%). In 1970 the opening ceremony was enhanced with protesters' signs saying "Get us out of this hell"http://cache1.asset-cache.net/gc/3290826-28th-july-1970-a-large-banner-saying-get-us-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=Zr%2Fqim4UtM%2BXywKOzLHkRf%2BOxft%2Ff46jjy8d7BdzeJP8aAVB5AgV4OFjkCfy3tUg -
great old pic^^for wider historical context
its hard to see that only 2% cycling is the current modeshare and imagine the other 98 %, with London the tubeengers must take a huge 50% plus chunk of that, despite the cost difference the cultural change of making 50% riders really must be a 20 year job, er, like Denmark.
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I really hate the 2% figure. It is used by those who want to highlight the negative, fear aspects to campaign for more 'safety'.
As with any dammed statistics you can choose your base to tell a different stories. In London it is a tale of two cities, inner and outer. Cycle use in Hackney is maybe 8 to 15 times higher than in Harrow.Based on 2011 data:-
Across all London
the cycling share of all trips is 2%
the cycling share of trips by Londoners is 2.7% (excludes visitors)
the cycling share of non-walk trips by Londoners is 3.95%
the cycling share of non-walk, non-rail trips by Londoners is 4.83%
the cycling share of non-walk, non Public Transport trips by Londoners is 6.73%For people entering Central London in the Morning peak hour:-
the cycling share of non-walk trips is 2.8%
the cycling share of non-walk, non-rail trips is 13.5%
the cycling share of non-walk, non Public Transport trips is 28.9% -
And check out this highly informative map of London, as seen on Danny Williams' blog linked by skydancer above:
That big blob in north-east London is largely Hackney, with the northern wards in Tower Hamlets and some in Islington getting some benefit from the Hackney effect.
This is based on the 2011 census data published recently in comparison with the 2001 census.
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Despite years of nefarious black propaganda through which the motoring lobby turned pedestrians and cyclists against each other, the tide has turned. It is those of us who don’t occupy fume-spewing, hurtling chunks of death metal who own the road now. The petrolhead is the pariah, and those of us who travel under our own steam are the masters now. London is a proper cycling city. Boris’s £913 million plan is proof of that. And it feels oddly neat that his announcement of the investment in cycle lanes, improved junctions and suburban “mini-Amsterdams” should come in the wake of an RAC report that poor families spend 26 per cent of their disposable income, and richer families 12 per cent, on their cars.
I know — 12 per cent! Just think how many holidays, or tickets to see Helen Mirren as the Queen, or PPI lawyers you could buy for that chunk of your annual income This week in the Guardian, mother-of-four Joanna Moorhead echoed a point I’d made before: that with car clubs and public transport and new infrastructure buttressing the health benefits for walkers and cyclists, there is simply no excuse for owning a car in London, even if you have a large family and small children.Quite a good read that.
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